Glad to hear you got through it and lived. Speak soon, Slau

On Apr 21, 2015, at 7:01 PM, Brian@Wavefield Recordings 
<br...@wavefieldrecordings.com> wrote:

> Hey Slau,
> 
> Thanks for the response, yeah the track list table always seems to
> come after the tracks in the mix window for me..I fiddled with a few
> things today and low and behold all meters are showing, and its a
> fairly busy template I have for my analog desk with circa 30 tracks.
> 
> Got through tracking 4 songs wwith a 3 piece band today so heres to
> jumping in the deep end.
> 
> Still none the wiser about the exact reason for certain things that
> happen with Voice Over in Protools but I get the impression that might
> be something I'll have to get used to for the time being.
> 
> I did run into a problem trying to playback the session after
> recording today but it was down to the input only monitoring mode I
> had accidentally selected, or at least that seemed to be it.
> 
> I've yet to dive into editing and mixing really but a brief encounter
> with the trim plug-in to reverse polarity on a track today didn't go
> well, for some reason the polarity would only change during playback,
> and then when I stopped and hit play again the parameter reverted back
> to its default state...the same thing happened with a gate  plug-in I
> quickly tried  out on a snare track, I adjusted all parameters from
> the keyboard while listening to the audio and then when I closed the
> window and went off to do something else it went back to the default
> setting that were there when I first incerted the plug.
> 
> I'm sure its something to do with an automation mode or something.
> 
> Sorry for going off topic but its been a long, testing but successful
> day in studio.
> 
> Brian.
> 
> On 4/21/15, Slau Halatyn <slauhala...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Brian,
>> 
>> Well, you've sure chosen to dive in at the deep end, eh? No pressure ;)
>> 
>> It's odd that you would have seen the tracks list table after all of your
>> tracks. I've never seen that behavior. To be clear, though, you are, in
>> fact, seeing the tracks list table in the Mix window? Under the view menu,
>> you can show or hide the tracks list table. I'm not at the studio so I'm not
>> 100% sure but I believe it's under the Other Displays menu. If you're seeing
>> any tracks in the Mix window, that would suggest that they're being shown
>> and, unless you have something on the order of 24 tracks, pretty much all of
>> them should be visible and displaying correctly. Make sure you don't have
>> the "narrow mix window" displayed (under the view menu). I don't know what
>> else to tell you on such short notice. Yeah, good thing you know your
>> preamps and, as long as you're recording at 24 bits, you have loads of
>> headroom. Even at your most conservative, you should be fine.
>> 
>> Slau
>> 
>> On Apr 20, 2015, at 10:58 PM, CaseyBrian Casey
>> <br...@wavefieldrecordings.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all, I've just jumped on the PT band waggon, and am all ready to go
>>> tracking my first session in studio, but meter reading issues have come
>>> out of no where, leading me to be very much less prepared than I had
>>> thought.
>>> 
>>> The catch may well be that I'm using PT 12 on osx 10.10 so if someone has
>>> that around and can chime in I'd really appreciate it. I didn't know any
>>> means of sticking to PT 11 on the subscription plan I have so thought 12
>>> should be fairly consistent in terms of its behaviour with Voice over.
>>> 
>>> I was reading peaks just fine before but can't get any consistent
>>> behaviour now with the tips in this thread or any combination of hiding
>>> and unhiding tracks. Luckily I know my pre-amps ok and should be able to
>>> track without input metering for tomorrows session, but I'll probably get
>>> some strange looks from some observing musician at some stage when I
>>> record super low accidentally or something.
>>> 
>>> I'm not sure if it is something that has changed in PT 12  but I don't
>>> seem to be getting a pop up list button for the track list in the mix
>>> window, I have a track list table and a group list table. From using PT
>>> ages ago on version 8 and listen to the PT with speech tutorials I seem to
>>> be under the impression there was a pop up button somewhere for a track
>>> list.
>>> 
>>> When I am VO and right arrowing over from the close button of the mix
>>> window, the track list table and other bits and pieces come after all the
>>> tracks in my session.
>>> 
>>> No amount of paging up or down and such has seemed to have solved this for
>>> me and even shrinking down the session to only showing 4 or so tracks
>>> doesn't allow me to read meters on all 4 tracks, just a couple.
>>> 
>>> Voice Over does speak that there is a level meter, just not a value for
>>> it.
>>> 
>>> Also when trying to option click or command click stuff I'm not getting
>>> any real luck after routing the mouse to the Voice Over curser, but I'm
>>> new to all this, so there are probably any number of ways I'm shooting
>>> myself in the foot.
>>> 
>>> Any quick feedback is much appreciated.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sunday, April 12, 2015 at 11:16:58 PM UTC+1, Slau Halatyn wrote:
>>> For a few years, I've been using the newer versions of Pro Tools but only
>>> began using the latest version at the studio as of this year. Having spent
>>> more time with PT 11 on a day-to-day basis, I've come to notice something
>>> that didn't occur to me earlier. I've never seen mention of it on the list
>>> although the general subject has come up. I have not, however, seen any
>>> posts offering the following explanation. For what it's worth, here it is:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> As, I'm sure, many of you have noticed, tracks sometimes appear, for lack
>>> of a better way of saying it, "to the left" of the Tracks List pop-up
>>> button (erroneously labeled, "Show/Hide label.") When interacting with
>>> those tracks, VoiceOver does see all of the elements and one can certainly
>>> interact with controls and change input paths, etc. However, when trying
>>> to perform actions that involve routing the mouse pointer and doing a
>>> modified click, things don't work as expected. Actually, they don't work
>>> at all. The reason is that, when the tracks appear to be to the left of
>>> that pop-up button, they're actually not visible on screen and therefore
>>> cannot be accessed by the mouse pointer. Scrolling into view has certainly
>>> been suggested on the list as well as showing only the tracks in question.
>>> That's all good but an alternative is to simply page up or, even quicker,
>>> use the bank select on a control surface to expose the left-most tracks
>>> or, conversely, the right-most bank if that's what you need.
>>> 
>>> This is one of those things that has come up on the list a few times but
>>> I've never seen this particular observation. Regardless, putting it out
>>> there.
>>> 
>>> Slau
>>> 
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