Let's evaluate where things stand currently when it comes to multifunction amp/effects units, primarily for guitar and accessibility.
Yes, this may be somewhat off-topic. I won't post on this again, unless it's deemed acceptable by the mods. I figure if there are accessible units or units whose editor applications are accessible, this is good to know for us studio owners who need a do-everything guitar box for clients, teaching, gigging, reamping tracks, etc.
Sadly, with many of these units, the editor on the computer side is inaccessible. That sure matters when things get complex. Let's list what we know so far.
Line6 Editor: not accessible although folks are having good experiences with the M13 multieffects and POD HD hardware directly. No word on Helix yet.
Fractal Audio Axe-FX: Axe-Edit not accessible (
Atomic Amps Amplifire: editor not accessible
Black Star ID Series: editor not accessible
Eleven Rack: editor and stand-alone software not accessible. Don't know about the plug-in yet.
Kemper Profiling Amp: not known, anyone have one of these?
Fender Mustang: not known
Boss GT100: not known
On the PC side going back a few years, I could use the editor application for the old Vox Tonelab units. The same goes for the editor for the Digitech RP1000; I would say it's minimally accessible but usable. That means the editor for the Digitech GSP-1101 would be accessible too; it's basically the same processor as the RP1000 but in rack form. (pretty good amp models and effects for the times, but not so good cabinets) For recording, you'll get better sounds from the free Le Pou plug-ins, BX Rock Rack, Studio Devil plug-ins etc. (that's just recording though, no gigging with that unless you want to depend on a laptop in a gigging situation)
One new unit that looks promising, due out this fall is the Yamaha THR100H. Here's how it's different. It functions, for the most part, like a traditional amp, with regular knobs and switches. Beyond overdrive/boost, noise gate, and reverb type, there are no additional effects, and it is asumed the player will use regular pedals or other gear to get those. The amp modelling is state of the art! Five preamp types from totally clean to really high-gain, can be matched with three kinds of boost, fed through any one of several simulated power tube types and topologies. Output is 100 watts class D, so this head weighs in at only 11 pounds. Feed a traditional guitar cabinet or use line/xlr/headphone outs. The outputs have 2048-point cabinet impulse responses, and users can apparently load 3rd-party responses as well.
Where a software editor becomes involved is selecting among the 3 overdrives, four reverb types, noise gate, whether the loops are parallel or serial, loading 3rd-party cabinet IR's, and performing firmware updates. There is a USB port for doing this, but not for getting audio in and out. They're asuming anybody doing series recording already has some sort of interface.
There are two versions of the head, the THR100H and THR100H Dual. The dual has two fully separate signal paths, meaning, for example, you and a student or jamming buddy can plug into separate inputs, go through separate amp sounds etc. Or, those two sounds cam be combined. Want a shimmery clean stacked with a lower gain overdriven tone? You can do that.
Here's a teaser demo from Andertons, with a full demo promised mid-September:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jeJ3FG17lo
Yamaha are selling traditionally voiced close-back 1x12" and 2x12" guitar cabs to go with the heads, featuring Eminence drivers. Where it gets interesting is with the 2X12", because the drivers are not identical, meaning you have more mix and match possibilities. With the dual version of the head, you can send one signal to one driver and another to the second driver, or blend them together, taking advantage of the qualities of both.
Here's Ross, their sales rep from the UK, doing a full walkthrough.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ina3d3jPaos
That sounds a little boxy because of all the room sound included, but also gives a good idea what the thing actually sounds like in the room.
I've emailed him to ask if we can take a look at the software editor and evaluate its accessibility. Or, who we should talk to at Yamaha to do that. I'll let folks know if and when I hear back from him.
Chris
At 08:21 AM 9/5/2015, you wrote:
I’d gladly send them some feedback if anyone could tell me where to send it. I have a bunch of presets I want to upload to my eleven rack that I’ve been sent, but I can’t because the eleven rack editor is inaccessible. It would also be cool to edit some of the built-in amps as some of them sound a bit ‘off’ with my PRS, and I’d like to replicate Brian May’s delays and amp sound.
On 5 Sep 2015, at 12:59, Rui Vilarinho <ruia...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hi, I own the 11Rack: indeed it's a Guitar processor, let's say that comes with a bunch of presets that are more directed for vintage sound, not so much crazy fx stuff like some other amazing processors around. Anyway, that's the reason I enjoy the sound of it.
It's also a bass processor. Has got a XLR input for vocal and a bunch of ins and outs jacks, the usual stuff.
It's a fine USB interface also.
The fx buttons on front are like if manipulating a guitar amplifier. You can easilly tap tempo and change or turn on or off most of fx.
The display that shows all internal good stuff like selecting amps, mics and the golden rest is totally unaccessible without eyes or optical nerve! grin .
Concerning the 11rack stand alone? saddly I can confirm that Voice Over gives nothing to work with.
I am a lot curious with that 11 plugin!
Well, the stand alone version seems that could be the handy tool for us blind guitarists. For those that have 11rack hardware perhaps we need to join and explain to the developer the Voice Over issue, probably they dont even know!!! They have the knoledge to make it accessible right?!
Regards, Rui Vilarinho
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From: Chris Smart
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 6:52 PM
Subject: Re: Eleven Plugin
Google it. It's for guitarists.
http://www.avid.com/US/products/eleven-rack
At 06:42 PM 9/3/2015, you wrote:
What does this plugin do anyway? I've never even heard of it, nor have I heard of the rack it apparently models.--- Learn to meditate and train your brain with Muse, the first lab-grade EEG biofeedback headband for home use!
Is it a compressor, an E Q, or what, exactly?
Chris.
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Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 12:44 PM
Subject: Re: Eleven Plugin
Thanks Slau, good to know the free version is accessible. Are their any advantages, that you know, to using the Eleven plugin over the stand-alone eleven rack? Are all of the adjustments accessible?
Thanks again,
Ashley
On 3 Sep 2015, at 17:40, Slau Halatyn <slauhala...@gmail.com> wrote:
I haven't purchased the upgrade yet but will surely do so soon. The 11 Free plug-in is accessible so I'd imagine that the full 11 plug-in would be exactly the same. If one were to be upgrading anyway, yes, doing so before September 30th would be prudent.
Slau
On Sep 3, 2015, at 10:10 AM, 'ashley cox' via Pro Tools Accessibility < ptaccess@googlegroups.com> wrote:
All,
I̢۪ve just received an eMail from Avid offering the Eleven plugin for free with the purchase of ProTools 12. I wasn̢۪t planning tg to upgrade to PT12, but this offer is tempting.
Can anyone tell me if the Eleven plugin is accessible? Is it basically a software version of the hardware eleven rack (which sadly appears to have been discontinued)?
Any and all help appreciated.
Thanks,
Ashley
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