Well, let's see if it works better with el capitan and the repairs. That battery definitely did swell up and force the touch pad up along with it. Voice over shouldn't really put that much of a load on resources because it is operating down in the depths of the OS, unlike third party screen readers in windows, especially Jaws which is a hog because of the off screen model.
Gord

-----Original Message----- From: Kevin Reeves
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 10:17 AM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: a slightly expensive lesson learned that may be of interest

I think this Apple specialist is misinformed. I have been leaving my 2009 MacBook Pro plugged in for the past six years, and nothing is happened like that. Also, El Capitan runs fine on older systems. It's Yosemite that sluggish in general. I am six years in, and this MacBook Pro is still running fine.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 14, 2016, at 11:32 PM, John Gunn <g...@tznet.com> wrote:

I have had my iMac since early 2009. They say that because they want to sell more.

Friendly word of advice, don’t listen to Apple.  smile


On Jan 14, 2016, at 4:17 PM, Richard Corey <rickcore...@gmail.com> wrote:

Apple says you should replace your Mac every 3years.
Ricky
On Jan 14, 2016, at 4:54 PM, Gordon Kent <dbmu...@cybernex.net> wrote:

I have a mac book pro which was the top of the line when I bought it over 4 years ago. I took it to the genius bar at my local apple store yesterday because it had been very sluggish since installing yosemity, and then it stopped booting up. I completely cleaned my hd intending to reinstall the os from scratch. I noticed that the touch pad was all out of allignment, and the battery wasn't working at all. What they told me was that if you leave it plugged in and continuously run it off AC power, the battery will eventually swell up, pushing up the touch pad and killing the battery. They had to send it out. SO if you are using a mac book, don't do what I did and treat it like a desktop, leaving it running all the time. Not only that, but they told me that although my system is an intel i7 with 8gb of ram, el capitan is optimized for newer processors that use a slightly different instruction set. My system barely matched minimum requirements. I think that I will probably get a desktop system since I really don't use the laptop as a portable system that much anyway, and the components are a lot less expensive for what you get. Even the new mac book pros come standard with 16 gb of ram now.
Gord
-----Original Message----- From: Martin (Punky) Sopart
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 1:09 AM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: PT12.4 or me

Hi Slau!

I think, I got it.

Selecting a track by pressing Command+Option+F is not the same like using p and semicolon. P and semicolon moe the insertion point to the desired track and Command+Option+F not.
Maybe thats the whole trick.

Thank you for your great assistance and have a nice day! / Martin

Am 13.01.2016 um 01:01 schrieb Slau Halatyn <slauhala...@gmail.com>:

Hi Martin,

I just opened the original zipped session file and I was able to recreate the behavior you've been seeing. As I suspected, it's the issue with having some sort of insertion point within the track. This time, I avoided any kind of scrubbing or shuttling while performing the actions and the audio was not deleted. As soon as I scrubbed momentarily in the track, any type of deletion or editing was possible. BTW, I believe I mistakenly mentioned linking the edit and timeline selection in my previous message. While that should always be checked (except for very specific circumstances), I meant "edit selection Follows Track Selection." With that option turned on, one would think that simply selecting a different track should move the insertion and vice versa. That may be true but, until there's an insertion point of some kind, it's likely that, when a new track is created, there's no insertion cursor, per se. Once there is, however, selecting a track moves the insertion cursor and moving the insertion cursor selects the corresponding track. I think it's specific to a newly-recorded track where, before any editing takes place, there's no insertion point anywhere within the session until you intentionally create one.

I'll see if I can verify this further but I'm pretty sure that's the case. Cheers,
Slau

On Jan 12, 2016, at 2:52 PM, Martin (Punky) Sopart <m...@cakewalker.de> wrote:

Hi Slau!

The edit window is opened and all numpad navigation commands work perfect.
Waveform is selected and the track hight is set to middle.
But still no deletion possible.
Starting and stopping shuttle lock mode once by pressing Control+Numpad0 followed by the Spacebar and the deletion works again for this track.
Same procedure again when adding another new track.

Strange…

Many thanks for your help and regards! / Martin

Am 12.01.2016 um 16:02 schrieb Slau Halatyn <slauhala...@gmail.com>:

Hi Martin,

I opened the session and followed your steps and, yes, the deletion works fine. One thing I did out of necessity is open the Edit window. By default, the session had only the Mix window opened. Without the Edit window being opened (even if it's just in the background), the numeric keypad commands for navigation wouldn't work. One thing I would check on your newly created track is that the track view selector is set to waveform. If it's not, you'll hear the audio but what's actually displayed in the timeline is whatever is selected in the track view selector pop-up. That could be volume information or pan, send, mute information, etc. If you select and delete, the only thing you'd be deleting is whatever the track view is displaying. It won't affect the audio. Double-check that your newly created track is set to waveform in the edit window. If you don't see the track view selector, go to the track options button and make sure your track height is set to at least small and not micro or mini. Actually, you can also set the track view from the track options pop-up list even if the height is set to micro or small.
Let me know if that solves the issue.
Slau

On Jan 12, 2016, at 4:30 AM, Martin (Punky) Sopart <m...@cakewalker.de> wrote:

Hi Slau and list!

Here is the link to my favorite test session.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/30728751/Uke.zip

It's out of the ProToolsWithSpeech tutorial added with an raw recorded uke.
Sorry for the size but I did not want to change anything.
And all testers who do not own a copy of ProToolsWithSpeech should trash this session after testing.


Do the following:

Open the session with Pro Tools 12.4 or 12.3.1.
Select track 4 (the acoustic guitar) by using scroll to track - Command+Option+F.
Go to bar 6 by using NumpadStar followed by Numpad6 and NumpadEnter.
Select to the beginning of the session by using Shift+Enter.
Delete the selected audio by pressing Delete or Command+B.
Press Enter for session start and Numpad0 for audition.
Now the guitar starts at bar 1.


And now:

Insert a new mono audio track next to the guitar by pressing Shift+Command+N followed by VO+Space.
Arm the new track by pressing Shift+R.
Start recording by pressing Numpad3 and record 4 bars of what ever.
Stop recording by pressing Numpad0.
Unarm the track by pressing Shift+R.
Go to bar 3 by pressing NumpadStar followed by Numpad3 and NumpadEnter.
Select to the beginning of the session by using Shift+Enter.
Delete the selected audio by pressing Delete or Command+B.
Press Enter for session start and Numpad0 for audition.
Did the deletion work?

Regards! / Martin
-----Original Message-----
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 3:28 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: PT12.4 or me

Hi Martin,

Let's try an experiment. Create a small session with one or two tracks where you can recreate this behavior. Zip it up and share a Drop Box link to it and let's see if others experience the same thing. I've never seen this before so
I'm curious to figure out what the issue might be.
Cheers,
Slau

On Jan 11, 2016, at 8:48 AM, Martin (Punky) Sopart <m...@cakewalker.de>
wrote:

Hello Slau and list!

Here is an additional observation.

When opening sessions which where recorded with older Pro Tools
versions deleting of selected audio works as expected.

Inserting a new audio track into the same session results in the strange
behavior for only that new audio track.

Regards! / Martin
-----Original Message-----
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn
Sent: Monday, January 4, 2016 6:34 AM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: PT12.4 or me

Hi Martin,

I'm not exactly sure why you're seeing that particular behavior. When Edit and Timelines are linked and Edit Selection Follows Track Selection are checked under the Options menu, the normal behavior, despite which
tool is
selected seems to be normal. In other words, if those are checked, any selection made in the Edit window with any particular track that is
selected
just simply works. Frankly, I don't remember the last time I had to change
the
edit tool for any given session. If I ever am specifically looking to see
which
tool is selected, I opt for the Selector Tool but, again, I don't remember
the
last time I had to verify because anything I ever do with editing just works
without any issues.

All that said, I have to say that one detail that is absolutely always true as it pertains to any editing that I do is that I always use either the scrub mode
on
the control surface or, at the very least, Shuttle mode on the numeric
keypad
to navigate within a track to get to the edit point. Since I always have
"insertion follows scrub" checked in the Preferences window, I'm
guaranteed to have an insertion cursor in the track because of that fact. Having the Edit Selection following Track Selection under the Options
menu is
supposed to ensure that same behavior but who knows, maybe there's a
crazy overlooked issue with that. I'm not sure.
Let me know if anything changes or you discover anything else.

Cheers,
Slau

On Jan 3, 2016, at 2:58 PM, Martin (Punky) Sopart <m...@cakewalker.de>
wrote:

Slau!

Thanks for answering and helping again.

All the settings, options and prefs. Were set correctly.

After testing the whole day I experienced something reliable and
reproducible.

Not shure if this is a new PT 12.4 thing?...
I never came to that before.

Here are my observations:

After opening a new empty session and adding e.g. an audio track I have
to
enable the Scrubber-Tool by pressing e.g. Control+Numpad0.
After that I habe to disable that tool by pressing Spacebar or Escape.

Having done these two steps deleting copying and cutting works fine
again.
Where does this come from?

Another short question: Is there a difference between Command+B and
the Delete key?

Best! / Martin
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Im
Auftrag von Slau Halatyn
Gesendet: Sonntag, 3. Januar 2016 06:29
An: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Betreff: Re: PT12.4 or me

check to make sure Track Selection is following Edit selection under the Options menu. Also, make sure edit selection follows scrub under the Operations tab of PT Preferences. After recording a track, you should
be
able
to delete audio within a track easily. If the track is selected and, say,
you
shuttled or scrubbed through the audio for even a split second, there
would
be an insertion point in the track for sure. Press Return to get to the beginning of the timeline and then press Shift-Option-Return to select everything in the track to the end of the timeline and press Delete.

Let us know if that helps,

Slau

On Jan 2, 2016, at 9:48 PM, Martin (Punky) Sopart
<m...@cakewalker.de>
wrote:

Hi all!

I just installed PT12.4 under Yousemite.

When opening existing sessions I'm able to delete selected audio but
only
out of existing tracks.

When inserting a new mono audio track and recording something I'm
not
able
to delete the selected audio.

Same with new sessions.

Loop playback of the selected audio works fine and all selecting
functions
do also work.

I checked all the time- and edit-line settings, Grabber-Tool etc. with
no
success.

Could it be a window size or zoom issue?

If so... Could I reset that values without assistance?

What else could I check?

Thanks! / Martin

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