Hi Phil, Welcome to the list. Getting more plugins accessible and even instruments shoud be a nice goal. That trick with fixed screen stuff, won't work I think, but need to see some test before I come back. When you open a plugin and interact with that area, and no controls are found. That will be a challange to make this accessible. Keyboard maestro, I need to tkae a look at it. And maybe we find an algoritme that compute the position of an element when the screen size wasn't the same on the original machien.
Phil, does you have a demo version for mac so I can take alook at how voiceover will respond? :) There for I'm thinking to bring up a site with some Goals: First of all, why accessibility is imported and try to tear down the missunderstanding that making apps accessible is a huge cost. In some situations it may be, but by starting a new project, take a look to the accessibility ifnromation on Apple developer pages. I'm not that into Windows programming, so don't know if they provide good documentation. Ok, I'm also a drummer and want to bring my musical idea's outside my head. The goal should be that an app or plug should be useable, nog perfect accessible. See what happend in those days that Smartphone became more accessible. We thought we would never use a touch screen. And to be honest I bought my first Iphoen when it came out in 2009 the Iphone 3gs. And all of the sudden, Icame from a native Linux user to a mac, iphoen, ipad, watch workflow. For my work, I still use linux consoe in (vmware) to do my main job. Configureing firewalls, switches, routers, servers in a datacenter, even programming in some language. You have way more overview when using braille on linux then on any other platform. Ok back to the topic. So What I will say, teechnology is going fast. If the guys that make those software are aware of accessibility and with no so much work. Hopefully we will see improvements. We can group some nice guys that just are beta testers and give them positive feedback. I know Slau does this with some other guuy and that is great, but when we can create a hole community, that can be have more impact. Second thing: Not only software and plugins should benice to have access to but also instruments. There are a few, but not for all functions they provide. Ik can write an article of the Roland 2d-25kv, mauybe also td-15kv And if a friend @ Roland belenux will provide me a test unit of the td30. The 3th part, shoud be: list of accessible daws with links wher you can find more info. Pro Tools has a link to the protoolswithspeech.com website. * not only plugins Audio or Video review or an article on tips to use some kind of gear. When this portal is alive and I think it will take some time. Then we need it to promote it over facebook twitter and such, Ask people to like Accessible music creation, production 4 all. With a link to our website. Sorry for this long mail, but I realy want to start on this. Domain, server in a very good data center, ipv4 ipv6 space and enough tb's free Glad to hear your opinions and thoughts. Have a nice day With kind regards, Peter Durieux On Tue, Apr 05, 2016 at 04:08:57PM +0100, Phil Muir wrote: > Another potential issue could be screen resolution. Am guessing that's > different depending on which Mac you have? Could work around that one on > Windows by getting everyone to use the same screen resolution although that > wasn't exactly optimal. However, it did mean that my solution for Superior > Drummer 2, works well across systems. > > > > _____ > > From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Phil Muir > Sent: 05 April 2016 15:59 > To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Hello From The UK > > > > Hey Slau. The challenge with regard to Superior Drummer 2 may be coding up > a robust solution. For example, when using pads in Superior Drummer 2, in > order to get that reliable every time, the HsC set first clicks the > Cunstruction view Window then, the classic view Window in order to get the > pads to appear at the correct place on screen. Finally the pad in question > is brought into focus. This is all accessed in a fake tab order that is > navigable with Alt control plus tab and shift tab respectively. Not even > sure if doing something like this would be possible with Keyboard Maestro. > One way to find out I guess ;-) > > > > _____ > > From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Slau Halatyn > Sent: 05 April 2016 15:46 > To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Hello From The UK > > > > Hi Phil and welcome. Keep us posted on your progress. With sighted > assistance on the plug-in front, you'll find Keyboard Maestro mildly > challenging but, for creating clicks relative to window positions, it > shouldn't be too difficult, plus the developer is good about clarifying > things if you run into a road block. > > > > Best, > > Slau > > > > On Apr 5, 2016, at 10:29 AM, Phil Muir <i...@accessibilitytraining.co.uk> > wrote: > > > > Hi all! > > > > Firstly thanks to Slau and others who have pushed accessibility in Pro Tools > on the Mac side. It really is appreciated! > > > > Thought I should introduce myself. My name is Phil Muir and I work > primarily as a mixing and mastering engineer/session musician. I would > describe myself as a Sonar 8.5.3 power user :-) I also do a bit of access > technology training and have from time to time made music technology > products accessible on the Windows side such as ToonTracks Superior Drummer > 2. For more information on that, checkout: > > > > <http://www.accessibilitytraining.co.uk/superior.html> > http://www.accessibilitytraining.co.uk/superior.html > > > > I am now running a couple of mid 2012 13 and 15 inch Mac's here and have > updated my Pro Tools from 10 to 12.5 as really want to get a feel for what > is achievable in PT. > > > > I have read with interest the short thread that Sean Cummins started about > us being in a brave new world. Shall have to check but just because > ToonTrack tell us they are not planning to make Superior Drummer 2 > accessible on the Mac side, doesn't mean that it can't be done. Am planning > to purchase Keyboard Maestro and see just how far I can push access to > Superior Drummer 2. I am under no elusion that this will be easy. It won't > because as am sure you all know, Voiceover ether can see screen elements or > it can't and in the case of Superior Drummer 2, it can't so the only way we > will get this going is with some sighted help. Also would like to see if I > can make the Focusrite Saffire control panel accessible on the Mac side that > is assuming someone hasn't done that already. Already created a solution > for that on Windows with the Jaws screen reader and HotSpotClicker. Anyway, > shall close for now. > > > > > > Regards, Phil Muir > > Accessibility Training > Telephone: UK+44-1747-228-459 > Mobile: UK +44-7968-136-246 > E-mail: > <mailto:i...@accessibilitytraining.co.uk> i...@accessibilitytraining.co.uk > URL: > <http://www.accessibilitytraining.co.uk/> www.accessibilitytraining.co.uk/ > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to <mailto:ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit <https://groups.google.com/d/optout> > https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. 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