Hey Slau. Thanks for the heads up. Will be great when those become accessible. Really appreciate all that you have done personally to make PT accessible for us on the Mac.
_____ From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn Sent: 07 May 2016 15:41 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Can We Read RMS And the New LUFS Meters In Pro Tools Hi Phil, Pro Tools doesn't include those meters by default. Most people are using plug-ins that specialize in keeping track of specific volume units. Those plug-ins, unfortunately, are not yet accessible. You should just stick to Windows for that. Slau On May 7, 2016, at 6:00 AM, Phil Muir <i...@accessibilitytraining.co.uk> wrote: Hi all! Do we have access to RMS and LUFS meters in Pro Tools? This would be another deal breaker for me as for me at least, I don't have all of the tools that I require on the Mac side such as an accessible metering system that I can use to check all meters, peak, RMS LUFS or dynamic range. My view is that you can't work independently as a mastering engineer without all of that feedback from meters. My personal goal is to master albums with a crest factor no higher than 8LUFS or, DR8 and if possible lower than that in order to preserve dynamics. RMS is kind of the same as LUFS however, what it won't tell you is the over all integrated loudness of a track that you are mastering E.G. the crest factor. Great mastering engineers such as Ian Shepherd have done videos explaining the new LUFS system. You will find the video on this page: <http://www.productionadvice.co.uk/lufs-dbfs-rms/> http://www.productionadvice.co.uk/lufs-dbfs-rms/ This is going to become more of an issue as there are new LUFS standards for broadcast in the European Union and US and if you don't adhere to the new standards, your masters will be rejected as non compliant. I have taken a look at the TT Dynamic Range meter and the stand-alone app on the Mac and unfortunately it doesn't appear to be accessible. I managed to make it accessible on the Windows platform using the freely available HotSpotClicker Jaws scripts. You can read about the accessibility here: <http://www.accessibilitytraining.co.uk/tt_dynamic_range_meter.html> http://www.accessibilitytraining.co.uk/tt_dynamic_range_meter.html In theory LUFS and RMS could be made accessible as they are already part of Pro Tools. We would just need to be able to somehow read them. I guess they could implement them in a similar way as Peak although RMS and LUFS/DR meters are dynamic so that could be a bit of a challenge. It certainly is on the Windows side. You have to set Jaws to "Say nun" then, you can use keystrokes to read the TT Dynamic Range meter. The TT Dynamic Range meter also has a stand-alone app. The cool thing about that is that you can click on a folder and when you doo, all of the information in the folder is written out to a text file. I have pasted an example below of what an album looks like but taken out the real track names. Still, this will give you an idea of what I am talking about. Note: you will see from the following example that we have an album with some tracks that have a higher crest factor of DR8 and the overall loudness comes out at minus 10. You will also see that the peak is around minus 1.2 DB. That's to allow for compression into other formats such as MP3/MP4 without getting any clipping added to the compressed files. As you can see the below example is well within my goal. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------ Analyzed folder: E:\Sonar Projects\Wave Files\masters_test\Masters_test\44.1-CD Quality\ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------ DR Peak RMS Filename ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------ DR10 -1.01 dB -12.32 dB 01 Test.wav DR8 -0.79 dB -10.63 dB 02 Test 1.wav DR9 -0.71 dB -11.07 dB 03 Test 2.wav DR10 -0.99 dB -14.52 dB 04 Test 3.wav DR10 -0.93 dB -11.91 dB 05 Test 4.wav DR8 -0.81 dB -11.02 dB 06 Test 5.wav DR11 -1.02 dB -14.31 dB 07 Test 6.wav DR9 -0.99 dB -12.52 dB 08 Test 7.wav DR8 -0.94 dB -11.11 dB 09 Test 8.wav DR10 -0.99 dB -12.92 dB 10 Test 9.wav DR11 -1.00 dB -14.24 dB 11 Test 10.wav DR10 -1.02 dB -14.68 dB 12 Test 11.wav ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------ Number of files: 12 Official DR Value: DR10 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. 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