In the case of iZotope I got together with Chris Smart and wrote them a letter explaining why they may wish to make products accessible. They were very open to the idea and we managed to get a number of visually impaired testers on to the beta program. Unfortunately they have had some internal restructuring done and the person who would have been able to restart the beta doesn’t have the power to do that. I am still in talks with iZotope about resurrecting this beta program because I think it’s needed both on Windows and Mac and a number of you have been in touch with me expressing an interest in getting involved.
_____ From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jean-Philippe Rykiel Sent: 17 June 2017 00:02 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Juce accessibility, How to get the money? Slau. that sounds very discouraging doesn't it? Let me ask you, What motivated Avid to work on ProTools accessibility? I suppose they started by Giving you all this market share blah blah, but then, what made them change their minds? Even smaller companies like Izotope made some of their products accessible like Rx, even though Rx accessibility is declining with newer versions, but it seems they were Concerned with accessibility, at least temporarily. I wonder why. Did the boss Have a blind friend or family member? It would be interesting to know what motivates people to do unprofitable things. Best, JPR http://www.jprykiel.com http://soundcloud.com/ryksounet http://twitter.com/ryksounet http://facebook.com/jeanphilipperykiel Le 16/06/2017 à 19:53, Slau Halatyn a écrit : The subject of accessibility as it relates to the JUCE platform has been discussed on the JUCE forum. One of the guys from Sound Radix posted earlier this year on a few key points: https://forum.juce.com/t/accessibility-for-blind-people-using-voiceover/2104 0 As far as Avid is concerned, there is no financial consideration, per se, but there most certainly was a point when I had suggested crowd funding. There's no question that, in the long run, having the company make it part of their standard workflow is the way to go. Of course, you can't compare Avid to an open-source company so it's quite different. Further, most developers are one-man operations and will definitely shy away from that kind of financial hit. In my opinion, it simply won't happen. If JUCE developers follow the practices set forth by Sound Radix, we're in good shape across dAW platforms. The remaining issue would be the presets problem and that is currently being looked at by several companies including Avid. The idea would be to create an industry-standard format that could be read by any dAW on any platform. It was raised earlier this year by a developer and, coincidentally, by one of the biggest software developers in the industry and Avid, along with others, has signed on to try and make it happen. BTW, the whole iLok thing had nothing to do with JUCE but QT. Regardless, the best solutions will have to address all platforms. Slau On Jun 16, 2017, at 12:52 PM, Phil Muir <i...@accessibilitytraining.co.uk> wrote: JPR. Juce can already be made to be somewhat accessible. You just need to know how to do that. For instance. The Ilok Licence manager on Windows and Mac is somewhat accessible on both platforms. I think Slau may have had discussions with Pace on the Ilok application. No reason why that same accessibility couldn't be ported to other apps. -----Original Message----- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jean-Philippe Rykiel Sent: 16 June 2017 16:23 To: viplist; ptaccess@googlegroups.com; logic-accessibil...@googlegroups.com Subject: Juce accessibility, How to get the money? Dear friends, this one could change our musical lives For good, so I hope you don't mind me posting it to several lists at a time. Juce Is A set of libraries that are used to develop music applications. It is already being used by about 500 companies, among which Pianoteq, UVI, Korg, Max, SampleModeling... for those with a better skill Than mine in computer science, here is their website. http://juce.com Juce Provides tools for developers that allows them to build applications that are compatible with every operating system, Windows, OS X, Linux, without having to recode For each System. This also means these Developers depend on Juce for things like their graphic interface. I just spoke to someone from the Juce support team about our accessibility issues. Useless to say that, if Juce could give its clients an accessibility module, that would be the end of our problems, And all Plug-ins developed withJuce could instantly become accessible at once. But Such a tool would take about six months and Approximately $111000 To develop. Who has this money? Of course, Juce is not Apple, not eaven Avid, and they cannot afford to pay for this development by themselves, especially since, after these six initial months, comes an unpredictable time of maintenance, as things never work as expected. So, two things could be done. One would be crowdfunding. but how many Blind musicians would be ready to pay, and how much, ? Another solution would be to make companies that use Juce for their plug-ins concerned With accessibility. If each company Invested a small amount of money, something like 5000 each, if they feel accessibility would Also improve their image and reputation, Then the goal would be reached. For this to work, they need testimonials from As many blind musician as Possible, who dream to use such plug-ins but can't. I would be happy to be your Intermediate, and transmit all these testimonials to the Juce team, who will Transmit these to their 500 partners on our behalf. So, what do you say? 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