Hi Nate, 

As a quick note, firewire and usb aren't as restrictive as thunderbolt 
marketing hype might suggest, for example the Allem and Heath interface card in 
my console does 32 in and 32 out over firewire 400 with no problem, RME and 
antilope also get huge results with usb based interfaces. 

I had an RME fireface UFX in the past, while its own mixer and routing software 
wasn't accessible with a screenreader I was able to create monitor mixes, route 
audio and use many of its monitor control type functionality as it could be 
controled with a control surface using HUI protocol. At the time I controled it 
with a BCF 2000 and it was actually a great system and I was omly missing out 
on access to a small portion of its functions. 

Unfortunately the trend in interfaces is towards proprietary  on board features 
that are as inaccessible as they ar awesome. 

Sent from my smart-ish phone!

> On 14/11/2017, at 3:16 AM, Nathaniel Kile <heavens4r...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> I am still going back and forth between the Apogee and the Apollo but neither 
> seem to be completely accessible. I am looking at the new Apollo's with the 
> quad shark processors, but the unison technology does not seem to be 
> accessible and I don't want to buy something and only be able to use half of 
> its features. What are you using? I am in the $1500 to $2000 range.
> Any suggestions? I have a couple clean pres, and thought about simply picking 
> up a Black Lion Audio AD converter, but then I would still have to push audio 
> through my 003 and it is only fire wire and I want a stronger data transfer 
> than fire wire can offer. 
> 
> Nate Kile,
> Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision 
> Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual 
> instruction for schools
> Also Private training to your needs
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> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> Of TheOreoMonster
> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 6:06 PM
> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling
> 
> If you do not have an iOS device to control the device accessibly, then 
> perhaps consider an interface that has some hardware buttons on it so you 
> won’t really need to use its control software.  For example if you need to 
> enable phantom power or switch an input from line level to hi-z consider an 
> interface that has physical buttons for these features. If you don’t have a 
> Condensor mic that requires phantom power or plan to record an instrument 
> like guitar or Bass directly and also don’t plan to do any complicated 
> routing of audio you probably won’t need to ever worry about going into the 
> Apogee software and just install the drivers and start using it. Usually with 
> most interfaces I have encountered once the drivers are installed, you can 
> select it as the audio interface in your DAW and start using it. 
> 
>> On Nov 13, 2017, at 9:16 PM, Andre Jarreau <andre.jarr...@earthlink.net> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Ok, I'm new to Mac and have even less knowledge of Keyboard Maestro.  
>> 
>> Do you know of an audio interface similar to the APOGEE thunderbolt Element 
>> 46 that might be more accessible friendly?
>> 
>> Or should I bite the bullet and learn Keyboard Maestro?
>> 
>> I am open to suggestion.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Andre J.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Slau Halatyn
>> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 5:58 PM
>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling
>> 
>> Nah, you can't control it from within Pro Tools. It's a stand-alone 
>> application. It might be possible to create macros to control it a bit with 
>> Keyboard Maestro but it won't have anything to do with Flo Tools.
>> 
>>> On Nov 13, 2017, at 5:44 PM, Andre Jarreau <andre.jarr...@earthlink.net> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes, Apogee support does not know how FlowTools works.  
>>> 
>>> My thought is if the APOGEE plugs into PT then regardless of of pass 
>>> through, USB or Thunderbolt, FlowTools stands a chance of controlling it 
>>> through PT.  
>>> 
>>> If anybody out there knows for sure one way or the other please let me know.
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> Andre
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Steve Martin
>>> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 12:19 PM
>>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling
>>> 
>>> Have you contacted Apogee Support?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 13, 2017, at 9:03 AM, Alex Coleman <musicbyalexcole...@gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Andre,
>>>> Regarding the Apogee Element 46, I have recently purchased that 
>>>> exact interface and am having issues setting it up using voiceover.
>>>> There is an IOS app that you can download that looks accessible and 
>>>> allows you to set up your interface from an iPhone or iPad, etc.
>>>> However, I am having issues getting my iPhone to connect to my 
>>>> Element 46, even though the iPhone app can see my Element connected 
>>>> to my Makbook Pro.
>>>> That being said, someone else (can't remember exactly who) on this 
>>>> list is using the IOS app successfully, so I'm assuming that my 
>>>> problems are specific to my particular system.
>>>> If I come up with a solution, I'll try to post an update.
>>>> 
>>>> Concerning your question about decoupling your monitors from their 
>>>> stands, generally speaking, any type of additional isolation that 
>>>> can be implemented to help eliminate any unwanted 
>>>> vibrations/reflections/etc. would be advisable. It all just depends 
>>>> on your specific mixing environment.
>>>> 
>>>> HTH
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 11/10/17, Andre Jarreau <andre.jarr...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>> Hi List,
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am trying to find out if an APOGEE thunderbolt Element 46 is 
>>>>> accessible using FlowTools-PT on a Mac Book Pro.  Or is some kind 
>>>>> of accessibility plugin needed.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Also trying to find out if monitor de-coupling stands are a good 
>>>>> idea to have for mixing down a project.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks A to Z in advance.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Andre J.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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