Different strokes for different folks. Some use logic, some use reaper, some use tape. I don't see anything wrong with keyboard workstations. Some just like using hardware. Theres advantages and drawbacks to literally everything. But yes, I think they're worth it, assuming thats the main question you were asking? I think they're cool. You may not, or you may not find a use for them, thats alright. Keep in mind too though that different keyboards like those you mentioned have different sounds you may not have otherwise, so thats of course something to think about as well.
Rory > On Jul 1, 2022, at 3:57 PM, Christopher Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Guys, > > > I'm cross-posting this to a few lists, as I've never really had anyone in the > blind community bring up this topic, and I think it's honestly one worth > exploring. > > > When it comes to the side of keyboards now adays, we have entry level > keyboards, middle of the road, (no pun intended,) and finally higher-end > level systems. > > > My question really is, as long as the keyboard supports basic necessities > like pitch bend/mod wheels, midi in/out capability via USB, and feels good to > the touch to play, is it then really worth spending thousands of dollars > literally speaking to get something like a motif, or a montage, or a Nord > Stage, etc. > > > Yeah, I get that built in sounds if any could be a factor hugely for some > people, depending on how realistic they are, but here's my take. You've got a > DAW, say Reaper, Logic, ProTools, whatever. I mean $69 for Reaper, $200 for > Logic, or something as dirt cheap as $39 a month for ProTools for a perpetual > monthly license. Then, I could get a really decent, and good feeling midi > controller for around $300. OK, I get if you want weighted keys, and > something with a full sized 88 key setup, then you add on the aftertouch > feature, you may be looking at upwards of a grand, maybe a bit more, take > something like the Native Instruments S88, but at the end of the day, that's > still cheaper than a $4000 nearly workstation keyboard. > > > I also totally get that some keyboards are designed more to be arrangers, > like the Tyros/GNos, and by the way, I'm not just speaking here of Yamaha > products, as much as those are the first coming to my mind. I mean this more > for any brand/model more generally. But I'm talking about more workstations > here, not arrangers. > > > Most DAW's can do literally everything those workstations can do, I'd think. > You can mix, edit, add effects, multi-track both audio and midi, plus, with > actual software driving the DAW part of the system, you can expand. Again, no > pun intended off of Xpand2. LOL! You can get more instruments, more plugins, > etc. Yeah, you can kind of do that to some extent with hardware workstations, > but that's just it... to some! extent. > > > Plus, you have to normally memorize who knows how God many menus, scroll this > way then that, push this then that, then eat your green orange and yellow > crapping dinosaur, while at it spinning around in circle while standing on > your head. My point is, can you produce a full fledged production with just > one of these type workstations, Vocals, music, and all? Granted, I've never > heard anyone sighted or not do it, but I feel like certainly, yes. It could > theoretically be done. But, is it more an accessibility thing that would make > one choose a less higher end keyboard, then get the higher end stuff from the > DAW, as then they could use their screen reader to do all the advanced > functions, or are there actually more reason than that for choosing one over > the other way of doing this. I just personally these days don't see the point > in spending thousands. I'm constantly hearing people say, for example, Yeah, > I got a Motif, or yeah, I got a Montage, yeah, I have a really high end > Roland, you know, whatever, but I don't even know 98 percent the things it'll > do, nor how to do them. I just use Reaper, or Logic, or whatever. This has me > thinking, well then, why the hell did you get such a high end system, if you > aren't going to learn to take advantage of it. > > > It would be like me needing to rent a car for my wife and 3 little girls for > the weekend for a vacation to the beach. We only need a rental for a matter > of maybe 3 days, just something to transport us around. So, do we go with the > crown vic ford, or do we go with the ferrari/lamborghini? Oh sure, the latter > could do it, easily, but is it worth spending all that for only 3 days when > all we need is just something to get us around? I'm not saying go dirt cheap > and sacrifice good quality, but don't kill the wasp with a sledge hammer! > > > You guys are welcome to write privately, in case you deem this off topic, > which a few of these lists I'm sending to, it's probably borderline, and I > get that. So, feel free to take this off list if you want. > > > My e-mail is: > > > clgillan...@gmail.com > > > I really would though like to know yall's thoughts on this. Have you ever > considered this question? > > > Chris. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/ptaccess/1abefc34-e14d-bfe2-7362-d534a86d030d%40gmail.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/ptaccess/CFCC4553-C562-4319-A0E0-B9FD08120A0D%40rogers.com.
