Hi Chris,
You did nothing wrong at all. I was merely poking a little fun at the fact 
that, despite your disclaimer, you do tend to be overly dramatic with the 
"Chocked beyond belief" type of comment. Sorry, but wouldn't you agree that 
such a statement is just a wee bit over the top? Again, I'm just making light 
of it and I hope you can see the light-hearted humor in it. Helping is a good 
thing, of course and it's a good thing to point out the obvious sometimes. It's 
all good. Don't take offense. I'm just funnin' with you :)


> On Oct 24, 2022, at 4:20 PM, Christopher Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Goodness, Slau. I'm sorry! Not to be rude/overdramatic here, but I thought I 
> was doing a good thing, helping. I guess not though. Jesus Christ! Thank you 
> for the link though.
> 
> 
> 
> Chris.
> 
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> 
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> On 10/24/2022 4:06 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
>> Chris,
>> Once your shock (beyond belief) wears off, you should consider the fact that 
>> Avid posts compatibility data on their website and Pro Tools users are used 
>> to the fact that upgrading an OS before Pro Tools supports it is not 
>> recommended, not to mention somewhat risky. People do, however, try things 
>> out on a separate machine or partition just to experiment. Brace yourself 
>> (so that you're not shocked) when the question of whether or not to upgrade 
>> to Ventura comes up for months to come and users will repeatedly be pointed 
>> toward the compatibility chart on the Avid site. When the question 
>> inevitably comes up, steel yourself and share the following link:
>> https://avid.secure.force.com/pkb/articles/en_US/compatibility/Pro-Tools-Operating-System-Compatibility-Chart
>>  
>> <https://avid.secure.force.com/pkb/articles/en_US/compatibility/Pro-Tools-Operating-System-Compatibility-Chart>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 24, 2022, at 2:56 PM, Christopher Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm absolutely shocked beyond belief that not a single person, not even 
>>> Slau, has written in on the list about this. as of yet. At least, not that 
>>> I've seen.
>>> 
>>> Remember that today for us Mac users is mager upgrade time. This means OS 
>>> Monterrey is getting an upgrade officially to OS 13 Ventura.
>>> 
>>> Along with this, we may even be getting the official iPadOS 16, though I'm 
>>> more here to focus on the mac.
>>> 
>>> It's important to note that the update today for Ventura is *not* a beta... 
>>> Not even a public beta. It's the official release.
>>> 
>>> That being said, however, doesn't mean that just because the update is out, 
>>> you immediately should jump for joy with excitement, "it's here, it's here,
>>> it's here, finally!"
>>> 
>>> Let me say this: During the beta cicle, neither myself nor others could say 
>>> much due to nondisclosure NDA agreements. There are probably still things 
>>> privately
>>> being tested which people are on NDA regarding; they most likely probably 
>>> can't even disclose they are! testing in the first place, so it's most 
>>> likely
>>> probably a waist of your time to ask around.
>>> 
>>> What I'd say is, check, check, check, and oh did I mention, check! And by 
>>> the way, check! OK, you get my point.
>>> 
>>> The bottom line is, will things work with Ventura? Prr'rrobbably, yes. You 
>>> should! key word, should! be fine as far as DAW's like Logic, Reaper, 
>>> ProTools,
>>> etc. But! that being said, be careful. The bigger concern is plugins and 
>>> such.
>>> 
>>> For new users just getting on the bandwaggon with all this stuff, let me be 
>>> very black and white crystal clear and maybe even a bit direct with you. 
>>> Even
>>> though this would be an official release, you still do this at your own 
>>> risk. A lot of developers haven't yet officially, and that's the key word 
>>> here,
>>> officially, declared and certified that their software is fully compatible. 
>>> I definitely don't think Avid has with ProTools.
>>> 
>>> Also note that just because a DAW launches and works in Ventura for the 
>>> most part doesn't mean it's fully compatible. Depending on your current 
>>> software,
>>> and current hardware setup, you might luck out. Things for you may work 
>>> flawlessly. But then, the next Joe Bird from down the street may have a 
>>> totally
>>> different setup configuration. He/She/They try installing Ventura, and it 
>>> wind up being an absolute utter dreadful nightmare.
>>> 
>>> If you have another secondary mac you can try things with, it would be very 
>>> advisable to try Ventura there before putting it on your main production 
>>> machine.
>>> Once you know that it works OK for your environment, then you could migrate 
>>> things over slowly little by little to your main machine. The reason
>>> I say slowly little by little is that if, hypothetically something does 
>>> break, you'll remember the last thing in steps you did, and either can undo 
>>> it,
>>> or can say, whoops, that's where things broke. Then you can evaluate, how 
>>> important is it really that this thing that broke really is. Is it something
>>> though completely broken you can tollerate, or is it a total dealbreaker. 
>>> And hopefully if you're smart, because it broke first on your test 
>>> machine/environment,
>>> it's not like you brought your main machine to a halt, sota speak.
>>> 
>>> If you, like me, don't have a separate system, then you really only have 3 
>>> options: 1, best choice, don't do it at all, just wait until things are 
>>> fully
>>> certified to be compatible, 2. Do it, but be darn sure you have either a 
>>> Time Machine backup of Monterrey, or wherever you were previously, or 3, 
>>> use an
>>> external hard disk, or find a way to partition your current disk without 
>>> wiping it and dule boot between the 2 OS's until you know things totally 
>>> are safe.
>>> 
>>> In conclusion, I'm simply just saying, be really really really careful 
>>> today! Just because the update is there doesn't mean you just have to have 
>>> it right
>>> away. If it means making or breaking your job, then make it.
>>> 
>>> My mamma  always told me, if it ain't broken, don't fix it. LOL!
>>> 
>>> Chris.
>>> 
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