I don't understand how PTP is going to land a deal with PP&L, or get a bucket truck, or manage a system even if the city decides to give PTP MetroFi's equipment for free. And why should they.
I don't see why you should assume MetroFi WON'T take their gear down. Mike Rogoway seems to be the only one suggesting that. But even if the city gets Skypilot gear -- and it's worth, say $500/each (600x500=$300,000), it would be a temptation to sell it on EBay for $200-$250,000. SEI, OneEconomy and PTP management could burn though that in a year. Then where's the revenue stream? Still, I like the idea of running 1-2 mile hot zones in a dozen areas throughout the city. Put up 250 Skypilots, sell the rest. That would be handy for rich people with iPhones and Androids. I don't think it's much of a digital divide solution, though. Too expensive. Too bureaucratic. Not enough penetration. The digital divide solution is 2150 and white spaces, not WiFi. Higher taxes. For the war. Inexperience. Another 8 years of global economic crisis. - Sam ----------------- On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 11:23 PM, Russell Senior <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>>>>> "Sam" == Sam Churchill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Sam> Municipal WiFi networks typically costs $100K+ per sq mile. For > Sam> 100 sq mile coverage, that's $10 million. WiFi requires 30-40 > Sam> nodes per sq mile, plus lots of backhaul gear. Plus high > Sam> management, maintenence and power costs. > > Sam> If 2150 Mhz WiMAX were available -- free -- (like WiFi), then it > Sam> could average about 3.5 miles range from a basestation (similar > Sam> to 2.6 Mhz WiMAX). So each base station might cover about 10 sq > Sam> miles. A 100 sq mile city might only need only 10 towers. Fixed > Sam> service. > > I think you are smoking bad rope. > > All we are talking about here (regarding MetroFi's abandoned gear), is > how to salvage some value to the community from the MetroFi failure. > > Whether the FCC frees the particular spectrum you suggest or not is > pretty much immaterial to PTP, as we don't have the money to build the > towers or buy the magical 100 square mile covering gear to do what you > suggest, afaict. > > > -- > Russell Senior, Secretary > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -- Sam Churchill (www.dailywireless.org) --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ The Personal Telco Project - http://www.personaltelco.net/ Donate to PTP: http://www.personaltelco.net/donate Archives: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.wireless.portland.general/ Etiquette: http://www.personaltelco.net/index.cgi/MailingListEtiquette List information: http://lists.personaltelco.net To post to this group, send email to ptp-general@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---