On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 17:22:23 +0200, Brad Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I can go either way on this. The original NOTE was targeted to a very specific use-case and not intended to be a generalized access mechanism. That use case (XML read by applications running in a browser) is an important use case by itself.

I agree. This specification doesn't prohibit that though. VoiceXML would just say that for non-same-origin resources the access control policy as defined in [ACCESS-CONTROL] is applicable and what it would mean for that resource to be in "default", "allow" or "deny" state.


I don't feel like we've analyzed enough general use-cases for access-control to say that the mechanism is sufficiently general for the variety of use-cases that have been mentioned (restricting access to images, etc.).

Note that my proposal is not to make it generic. It just says that other specifications have to define when you have to apply the access control policy to a resource and what it would mean for such a resource to be in one of the three returned states.


That said, we could also leave that analysis exercise to those writing the specification that references this. I do worry that if there are two separate access-control use cases applicable to a single document (disallow access for X, but allow access for Y) then we could be in conflict.

I don't really understand this.


The allow and deny ruleset, together with the request URI (referrer) form an input for the access control policy. The outcome is either "access denied", "access granted" or "default" (or something along those lines).

Specifications using this specification must define for which resources the access control policy is applicable. Those specifications must also define what "access denied", "access granted" and "default" mean in the context of that specification (throwing an exception, etc.). (XXX: I suppose that in most cases "default" is treated as "access denied". Not sure how to say that here though.)

Yes, though if we want to make it general, I don't think we can specify a default. For instance, the <img src=""> case should probably default to allow.

In the case of <img src=""> the whole access control policy probably doesn't apply at all. (Unless you want it and in that case you'd have to define that in the relevant specification...)


XXX: Probably say something about this only being safe for GET and HEAD requests.

When fetching a resource the following algorithm must be followed:

When a resource is retrieved over HTTP extract a deny and allow ruleset from the Access-Control (XXX: Content-Access-Control?) header(s). That, together with the request URI, forms an input for the access control policy. If the result is "access denied" return that and terminate the algorithm.

I missed the justification for HTTP overriding document level? Is this just to support priority of protocol over content? The use case that a web-server might generally disallow, but a document wants to specifically allow in certain cases seems quite valid.

Something like

  Content-Access-Control:deny="*"

  <?access-control allow="foobar.com"?>

I suppose that's a valid issue. I'm fine either way so I suggest the specification says to take both into account and only HTTP for HEAD requests.


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