Personally, I think that both the access control draft as it sits and JSONRequest are short-term workarounds (all right, hacks), while your solution feels like a longer-term solution. I'd also like to see the constraints documented, but I'm not as willing to move on quite yet; while there may be a place for short-term workarounds, that doesn't mean we need to settle for them.

Cheers,


On 08/01/2008, at 10:45 AM, Close, Tyler J. wrote:


Hi Dave,

Thanks for the encouragement.

I'ld like to get the constraints nailed down before offering another design. One possible interpretation of the conversation to date is that the mechanism must work if the author has only the ability to deposit a single file on the web server. That makes things pretty tough.

Given the resistance to changing the design of the XMLHttpRequest proposal, and Jonas Sicking's comment that Firefox 3 will support JSONRequest, I'm also strongly tempted to say "good enough" and move on.

--Tyler

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<snip/>

(I still doubt the utility of these constraints, but
whatever, I'll play)

--Tyler



I personally haven't heard clear compelling evidence why
client-side PEP
is worth the complexity.  By my read of the WG, I see a few folks for
client-side PEP and a few folks interested in the server-side
only PEP.
I take the review of the Security Context WG very seriously. The fact
that apparently, you, Doug Crockford, Jon F, Mark N, and others are
concerned about this, perhaps the largest, part of the design gives me
cause for serious concern.  I think that if the Working Group members
won't explore the server-side PEP design, then I think a number of WG
members and non-members but interested parties would be grateful for
design(s) that you choose to offer.  I'm not sure that there is
consensus in the WG for the client-side PEP approach given yours and
others similar comments and I think that you've added some useful new
information.

Cheers,
Dave



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