On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 20:22:44 +0200, Paul Ellis <[email protected]> wrote:

On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 3:49 AM, Philip Jägenstedt <[email protected]>wrote:

On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 00:20:37 +0200, Paul Ellis <[email protected]>
wrote:

 Any solution that requires creating another window and opening a new
document would create a lot of issues that would not compare favorably
with
any current popular web video plugin (Flash, Silverlight, etc). It would
not
be a very seemless transition. The <video> resource from the parent page
may
have downloaded hundreds of MB of data and then the new window would make
a
new separate request for the same resource. Certainly the browsers could
try
to aggressively cache video content for these situations but even that
wouldn't work in all cases (any HTTP connection that doesn't allow byte
range requests, e.g. HTTP 1.0), and it probably would not work very well
for
resource constrained devices such as smartphones and tablets. This type of
hand-off would have to happen every time the user switched between
fullscreen and embedded mode as well.


Browsers can and do cache resources that don't support byte ranges. About the topic at hand, I think the experience we want is to click a button or
select "fullscreen" in the context menu, causing an element to go to
fullscreen, still with the possibility of rendering some content on top of
it, for custom controls and the like.


I suppose I wasn't clear in what I meant. Clearly browsers can cache
resources that don't support byte ranges. I was pointing out that if a new
connection is made for a resource that has previously only been partially
downloaded/cached, then the browser would not be able to resume the
download. It must start downloading the resource from the beginning.

This also isn't the case, we can and do cache just part of the resource and reuse that as long as it stays in the cache. I don't know what other browsers do.

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Philip Jägenstedt
Core Developer
Opera Software

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