On 10/05/2010 04:51 AM, Bijan Parsia wrote:
On 10/04/2010 09:51 AM, Shelley Powers wrote:

By submitting Last Call comments here in this email list, as part
of the broader W3C Last Call process, I can participate, fully,
throughout the entire process.

We will NOT use the [email protected] email as the target
for discussions related to any comments entered here.

Sorry, I had a bit of trouble parsing that (or at least understanding
the significance).

My interpretation is that WG discussion of LC comments will happen in
the normal WG fora (such as the WG mailing list).

This is bog standard.

"Bog standard"?  People in the UK sure do talk funny.  :-)

This mailing list is intended to be where the comments are made and where the resposes are sent.

The point that I was trying to make is that discussion of Last Call comments will often occur on the public-html mailing list. And, as you point out, surveys also tend to be open only to WG participants.

The WG *response* to LC comments will, presumably, at least be cced
to the forum wherein they were made, such as this list? If there is
further discussion with the raiser, I presume that will happen here
as well?

(Again, this is pretty standard.)

Agreed.

So, Shelley, if you want to be in on the internal WG debate (and do
things like vote), making an LC comment leaves you no more involved
with *those*. An LC comment *does* have to be vetted with you and if
you refuse to be satisfied, brought forth to the director at
transition time.

A reasonable strategy is to raise the comment *now* as a bug. If the
working group fails to dispose of it to your satisfaction, you can
raise it as an LC comment. (i.e., "My comment is that I'm not
satisfied with the WG resolution to my bug #237.") That may trigger
another round of discussion, which may just be "We're not going to
change this."

I would go further and state that raising the comment as a bug is the preferred strategy.

My personal experience is early bugs are preferred and I would
imagine be treated without prejudice. The tactics of commenting vary
with the situation.

Cheers, Bijan.

- Sam Ruby

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