Dear Ron,
 
There are probably 3 courses:
1.  give up and give in;
2.  don't give up but nag and persevere by going to court
3.  coup d'etat
 
1 is unconscionable
3 is impossible
therefore, 2 is all there is 
 
John
-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Owen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: John Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Friday, 15 December 2000 9:29
Subject: Re: Banks and Farmers.

No One John as they wont let anyone win just on a decision.
Ron
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, 15 December 2000 11:25 AM
Subject: Re: Banks and Farmers.

Dear Ron,
 
Who is going to sue the Crown (being vicariously liable) for that wrong done by those ministers?.....Of course, with a jury to judge the whole and every part of the case.
 
John. 
-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Owen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: John Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thursday, 14 December 2000 11:19
Subject: Re: Banks and Farmers.

Dear John
I think It is illegal for the banks to create credit or as the way they apply it DEBIT on customers.
As under sub section 51 of the Consititution, placitum 4 borrowing money on the public credit of the Commonwealth.  Establishes that only the government can borrow on the public credit of the Commonwealth. It cannot delagate this power to the banks or anyone else, this provision is not one of those where it states until the parliament provides otherwise. I any fair court, which you won't ever find they are stuffed.
Ron 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, 14 December 2000 2:54 PM
Subject: Re: Banks and Farmers.

Dear Jeremy,
 
"Under the bank charters granted by the federal Government" --- THIS IS WHAT THE PEOPLE MUST SEE.
 
Where are these bank charters and how do we get them?
 
Once we get these bank charters, the proof of the CONSPIRACY is there, in black and white ---WOW!!!!!!
 
 
Yours sincerely,
 
John. 
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeremy Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: John Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wednesday, 13 December 2000 11:06
Subject: Re: Banks and Farmers.

Dear John,  The banks are licenced to create credit under the bank charters granted by the Federal Government.  We may not like it, but it is not illegal - Sincerely,  Jeremy Lee
-----Original Message-----
From: John Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Jeremy Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Monday, December 11, 2000 11:31 AM
Subject: Re: Banks and Farmers.

Dear Jeremy,
 
What government licence for the banks to create the nation's money?
 
What legislation?
 
This money they create for the nation --- who owns it? Do the banks give it to the government or keep it?
 
Regards,
 
John Wilson.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeremy Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: John Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Monday, 11 December 2000 0:23
Subject: Re: Banks and Farmers.

Dear John -  Yes, I understand the question of credit-creation.  In 1992 I made a professional two-and-a-half hour video "The Money Game" which sets out the history and facts about banking.  It has sold hundreds of copies.
  I do not personally believe it will be overturned through court action, much as I would like to think otherwise.  It is true that, however reprehensible the action of the banks, they have been licenced to create the nation's money by the government.
   The money tyranny is the biggest of them all, and it will take a breakdown of the existing world order before it is changed.  That may not be so far away.
   In the meantime, alternative money schemes offer a partial alternative.  Sincerely,  Jeremy Lee
-----Original Message-----
From: John Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Jeremy Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tuesday, November 28, 2000 1:18 PM
Subject: Banks and Farmers.

Dear Jeremy,
 
I remember one of your videos called "The Drive for World Control" in which you asked the question, "If the whole world is in debt, then to whom?  The moon?".
 
With more and more people publicly saying that the banks create money "out of thin air",  you have the answer, ie: the whole world is in debt to thin air. Another description of the process is that the money is "created from nothing".
 
When the banks collect the repayments which should actually go to thin air or nothing, they do not return it to thin air or nothing but, instead, keep it (plus interest) for themselves. 
 
Charles Pinwell, in one of his booklets, used the figures from the Reserve Bank of Australia's own Journals to prove that Australia's private banks create tens of billions of dollars every year by this practice.  When I used these figures in an action I had against the St. George Bank Limited, the Supreme Court of NSW refused to allow Discovery (a Court Order for the bank to disclose the source of the money it lends) on three separate occasions as well as refusing to allow trial by jury. 
 
I have emailed and faxed the attached simple leaflet which sets out the method for farmers to free the country and themselves from this unlawful debt. I am not surprised by the lack of response but am naturally disappointed.
 
If you are not too busy, your comments would be appreciated.
 
Yours sincerely,
 
John Wilson.
 

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