Brian Manley wrote:
On Sep 16, 2009, at 11:48 AM, Kingsley Idehen wrote:

Juan Sequeda wrote:
The objective of this idea is to show that cool things can be done with Linked Data, and lets take advantage that the semantic web hackers are all together at the same place.
Objective was clear, my gripe was the regressive theme of data mashing.

In other words, lets rephrase this: a Linked Data Hack-a-thon
Why Hack when you can Mesh?

Hacking is overrated, overloaded, and easily miscontrued, seriously :-)


Kingsley, I find it rather ironic that someone whose cryptic, buzzword-overloaded, often unparsable messages here, on his blog and on twitter would complain about misconstrued terms or less-than-crystal-clear communication.
As context improves on the Web my messages will be clearer. The great thing is that I won't even have to edit (bar typos), they'll just get clearer :-)

If Juan wants to call it a Mashup, Hack-a-thon, or whatever...who cares?
Some do, its an event aimed at an audience. And audience in this context is supposed to imply: burgeoning pool of Linked Data meme enthusiasts.

Do Data Architects, Systems Designers, Data Integrators, and people with other data oriented technical skill sets not have a look-in here? I don't think these profiles gravitate to events that carry the "Hacking" theme.


Hell yeah, "hacking" is great term to use. Don't be such a stick in the mud. ;)
I am produc stick in the mud re. this matter. I would like this community to pay attention to "inclusion".

Kingsley

Kingsley



Juan Sequeda, Ph.D Student
Dept. of Computer Sciences
The University of Texas at Austin
www.juansequeda.com <http://www.juansequeda.com>
www.semanticwebaustin.org <http://www.semanticwebaustin.org>


On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:20 AM, Kingsley Idehen <kide...@openlinksw.com <mailto:kide...@openlinksw.com>> wrote:

   Juan Sequeda wrote:

       Hi everybody,

       Chatting with John Goodwin, and idea came up of organizing a
       Linked Data mash-a-thon during ISWC. There is a lot of Linked
       Data out there, enough tools to do cool stuff, and this is the
       biggest semantic web meeting, so why not show the world the
       cool things that can be done with Linked Data, in a short
       period of time. I haven't thought about details, but this
       could run for the whole conference, or have an afternoon
       session where everybody comes in and codes up an mashup. We
       can then showcase what we have done as 1 min lightning talks.
       My objective is to get people out of this community excited
       about Linked Data and what they can do with it.

       Anybody interested in participating and/or helping organize.

       Juan Sequeda, Ph.D Student
       Dept. of Computer Sciences
       The University of Texas at Austin
       www.juansequeda.com <http://www.juansequeda.com>
       <http://www.juansequeda.com>
       www.semanticwebaustin.org <http://www.semanticwebaustin.org>
       <http://www.semanticwebaustin.org>

   Why Mash-a-thon when Linked Data is ultimately about Data Meshing?
   Words matter a great deal when introducing critical stages of
   evolution witning any innovation continuum (which includes the
   Web), really.

   You don't need Linked Data for Mashups. The literal realm of Web
   2.0 technologies handle that fine.

   Linked Data is supposed to be about addressing those things aren't
   handled by Mashups -- which are simply about brute force
   presentation layer confined data recombinations, with code at the
   terminal.

   I would only be interested in a Linked Data oriented Mesh-a-thon :-)

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President & CEO OpenLink Software     Web: http://www.openlinksw.com









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Regards,

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