Ross Singer wrote:
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 1:58 PM, Dan Brickley <dan...@danbri.org> wrote:
(trimming cc: list to LOD and DBPedia)

Using Dan's trimmed list to continue...
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 7:09 PM, Kingsley Idehen <kide...@openlinksw.com> wrote:
When people aren't crawling, they are executing CONSTRUCTsor DESCRIBEs
via SPARQL, which is still ultimately Export from DBpedia and Import to
my data space mindset.

Is this necessarily true?  Couldn't the CONSTRUCT and/or DESCRIBE
queries be used to find resources and view the whole graph (or
specialized subsets) to determine if it's actually what is being
sought?

I meant: the are sending a series of these query patterns with the same goal in mind: an export from DBpedia for import into their own Data Spaces.
Is it better for DBpedia to do SELECTs and then retrieve the resource
URIs individually?
You can, and should use the full gamut of SPARQL queries, the issue is how they are used.

On our side, we've always had the ability to protect the server. In recent times, we simply up the ante re. protection against problematic behavior.

My only concern is that the tightening of control is sometimes misconstrued as a problem with the instance etc..

I suppose rather than assume that the data is all being exported into
another space (which, I would think, definitely happening -- having
data locally aids tremendously in indexing, for example) it could be a
case of people just using SPARQL the way it seems that SPARQL should
work?
Hence the onus is on us to make a smart server, which we've had since day one. Again, the issue is: when the server protects itself, the behavior is being misconstrued as an instance problem.

If you make a local instance of Virtuoso + DBpedia, you will see what I mean, and basically it would come down to what Nathan explained in this recent post [1]. Key excerpt:

"...The public lod and dbpedia endpoints really do no justice as to just how powerful and fast Virtuoso is, queries which take a few seconds on the public endpoint return in hundredths of a second on my local (low spec) server..."

Links:

1. http://webr3.org/blog/experiments/linked-data-extractor-prototype-details/

Kingsley
-Ross.



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