1. Try to remove the recent spam
2. Enforce a strict registration schema and allow edits only to
registered participants.
I think the community is small enough so that we could easily
determine eligibility of new people.
+1
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On 13 Jan 2012, at 08:52, Martin Hepp wrote:
Hi Markus, all:
I think it would be sufficient to
1. Try to remove the recent spam
2. Enforce a strict registration schema and allow edits only to
registered participants.
I think the community is small enough so that we could easily
determine eligibility of new people.
Best
Martin
On Jan 12, 2012, at 6:43 PM, Markus Krötzsch wrote:
Hi Yuri,
let us take this to one mailing list semantic-...@w3.org, as this
is the list that is most involved (please drop the others when you
reply).
As the technical maintainer of the site, I largely agree with your
assessment. In spite of the very high visibility of the site (and
perceived authority), the active editing community is not big. This
is a problem especially given the significant and continued spam
attacks that the site is under due to its high visibility (I just
recently changed the captcha system and rolled back thousands of
edits, yet it seems they are already breaking through again, though
in smaller numbers).
I do not want to blame anybody for the state of affairs: most of us
do not have the time to contribute significant content to such
sites. However, given the extraordinary visibility of the site, we
should all perceive this as a major problem (to the extent that we
attach our work to the label "semantic web" in any way).
So what can be done?
(1) Freeze the wiki. A weaker version of this is: allow users only
to edit after they were manually added to a group of trusted users
(all humans welcome). This would require somebody to manage these
permissions but would allow existing projects/communities to
continue to use the site.
(2) Re-enforce spam protection on the wiki. Maybe this could be
done, but the site is targeted pretty heavily. Standard captchas
like ReCaptcha are thus getting broken (spammers do have an
effective infrastructure for this), but maybe non-standard captchas
could work better. This is a task for the technical maintainers
(i.e., me and the folks at AIFB Karlsruhe where the site is hosted).
(3) Clean the wiki. Whether frozen or not, there is a lot of spam
already. Something needs to be done to get rid of it. This requires
(easy but tedious) manual effort. Some stakeholders need to be
found to provide basic workforce (e.g., by hiring a student to help
with spam deletion).
(4) Restore the wiki. Update the main pages (about technologies and
active projects) to reflect a current and/or timeless state that we
would like new readers to see. This again needs somebody to push
it, and for writing pages about topics like SPARQL one would need
some expertise. This is a challenge for the community.
I am willing to invest /some/ time here to help with the above, but
(3) and (4) requires support from more people. On the other hand,
there are probably hardly more than 20 or 30 *essential* content
pages that we are talking about here, plus many pages about
projects and people that one should ask the stakeholders to review.
So one might be able to make this into a shining entry point to the
semantic web in a week of work ... together with (1) and (2) above,
the invested work would remain valuable for a long time.
Cheers
Markus
On 12/01/12 10:43, Yury Katkov wrote:
Hi everyone!
What is the current status of the semanticweb.org
<http://semanticweb.org> website? It used to be the main wiki
about the
semantic web, it has a lot of cool and useful information about
everything. But now it seems abandoned. I mean, there are about 30
real
writers who update the information about their projects an write
articles, but they do something like 30% of changes. The other 70%
is spam!
Are there guys who support the website?
Who manages the community, are there any plans of creating
projects and
articles about SW? Is there community at all?
In my opinion if this great website suppose to be alive the first
goal
is to find volunteers who'll help administrator to combat spam (with
bots, extensions and editing policies) and support the new
activities
and projets on the wiki. (I'm ready to be one of them).
If this wiki lived only in the past when it was a big hype around
Semantic Web topics and now without a big funding nobody wants to
use it
- wouldn't it better to be frozen?
I appreciate and admire people who started up the wiki. Please,
don't
let it be the rotting memorial to the past of the Semantic Web.
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