On Aug 20, 2013, at 5:11 , Rick <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 7:25 PM, David Singer <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Aug 19, 2013, at 12:32 , Norbert Bollow <[email protected]> wrote: > > > (1) People who are non-US persons must, if they want to deny the NSA > > the ability to watch what they're doing online (without the NSA > > having any need for a warrant, and without any other democratic > > checks and balances), avoid using an operating system which is > > closed source software that comes from a US company. > > I don't think (I don't know, of course) that the NSA relied on any 'probes' > or the like in the client computers. Why bother, when you can watch their > traffic, much more easily, by having probes in important high-traffic > internet links? I certainly don't think that any monitoring software on the > client side, if it existed at all, would rely on any DRM or the like. Again, > why bother? > > I think you are under a dangerous illusion if you think using only free > software on your computer makes you immune from, or even at reduced risk > from, being monitored. > > > No one thinks that. > > No one said that. >
I'm sorry, then I misunderstood, and I still don't understand what the relationship is between EME, and the problem of the extent you can be monitored/tracked online. > It seems that if you live in the US, you can get a "Security Letter" that you > must comply with and discuss with no one or you spend 5 years in jail. Do > not pass go, do not collect $200.00 And the relevance to this EME discussion is…? David Singer Multimedia and Software Standards, Apple Inc.
