Re: XML vs. RDF

[William Bug]

Thanks, Glen.   These refereed publications are extremely helpful. As most on this list probably know, this debate has raged for sometime over the past 5+ years. If you want to cast a wider net, try "XML vs RDF" in Google.  I'm not suggesting this is the best way of thinking about the issue of when & how RDF provides significant value.  I think John's example does this well.  There are other examples, such as paper from Nat. Biotech. last September by Xiaoshu's and his colleagues.  The resulting Google hits are way beyond a HCLS scope, but many of the examples given can be mapped into the life science domain. Cheers, Bill On Jul 17, 2006, at 10:59 AM, Glen Newton - NRC/CNRC CISTI/ICIST Research wrote: Some articles from researchers who appear to not like RDF and the direction the Semantic Web is headed (for balance): "The Pragmatic Web: A Manifesto" Mareike Schoop,Aldo de Moor, Jan L.G. Dietz http://doi.acm.org/10.1145/1125944.1125979 Communications of the ACM  archive 2006, Volume 49 ,  Issue 5  (May 2006) Pages: 75 - 76   Rethinking the semantic Web. Part I McCool, R.   Internet Computing, IEEE Nov.-Dec. 2005 Volume: 9,  Issue: 6, p. 86- 87 http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpls/abs_all.jsp?isnumber=32927&arnumber=1541954&count=11&index=10 Rethinking the semantic Web. Part 2 McCooI, R.   Internet Computing, IEEE Jan.-Feb. 2006 Volume: 10,  Issue: 1, 93- 96 http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpls/abs_all.jsp?isnumber=33376&arnumber=1580420&count=18&index=16 -Glen Newton --  Glen Newton | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Group Leader (Acting), CISTI Research Chef de groupe (par intérim), Recherche de l'ICIST tel/tél: 613-990-9163 | facsimile/télécopieur 613-952-8246 Canada Institute for Scientific and Technical Information (CISTI) National Research Council Canada (NRC)| M-55, 1200 Montreal Road http://www.nrc-cnrc.gc.ca/ Institut canadien de l'information scientifique et technique (ICIST)  Conseil national de recherches Canada | M-55, 1200 chemin Montréal Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0R6   Government of Canada | Gouvernement du Canada    -- ----- Original Message -----  From: "John Barkley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <public-semweb-lifesci@w3.org> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: XML vs. RDF Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 07:52:43 -0400 On the BIONT call last Tuesday (July 11), we discussed some of the points that Bill made in his email on XML vs. RDF. Based on a suggestion by Alan to dig deeper into this question, we discussed the idea of using short examples to illustrate the technical differences between XML vs. RDF. For my colleagues, I created a simple example that I thought I would share (attached) illustrating the difference between XML and RDF with respect to the automated validation of semantic consistency. jb ----- Original Message -----  From: "Kashyap, Vipul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "w3c semweb hcls" <public-semweb-lifesci@w3.org> Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 7:11 PM Subject: [BIONT] Teleconference (Date correction) Tomorrow, Tuesday 11th July, 2006 Phone: +1 617 761 6200, conference 24668 ("BIONT") IRC: irc://irc.w3.org:6665/hcls Browser-based IRC client: http://www.w3.org/2001/01/cgi-irc Date and Time: 11th July, 2006, 11:00am - 12:00pm Agenda: -        Discuss progress on Ontology Task Force tasks -        Any other discussion ======================================= Vipul Kashyap, Ph.D. Senior Medical Informatician Clinical Informatics R&D, Partners HealthCare System Phone: (781)416-9254 Cell: (617)943-7120 http://www.partners.org/cird/AboutUs.asp?cBox=Staff&stAb=vik To keep up you need the right answers; to get ahead you need the right questions ---John Browning and Spencer Reiss, Wired 6.04.95 Bill Bug Senior Analyst/Ontological Engineer Laboratory for Bioimaging  & Anatomical Informatics www.neuroterrain.org Department of Neurobiology & Anatomy Drexel University College of Medicine 2900 Queen Lane Philadelphia, PA    19129 215 991 8430 (ph) 610 457 0443 (mobile) 215 843 9367 (fax) Please Note: I now have a new email - [EMAIL PROTECTED] This email and any accompanying attachments are confidential. This information is intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any review, disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of this email communication by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient please notify us immediately by returning this message to the sender and delete all copies. Thank you for your cooperation.