Andrea,

I am cross-posting this to public-semweb-lifesci, since I recall this 
discussion (parts of it) coming up a few times here...

-Eric

--- Andrea Splendiani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


        This may be slightly off-topic for the biopax mailing list, but this  
        is probably the best list (for its audioence) where to post this.

        Some questions on BioZen (I didn't have much time to review it  
        deeply, so some of them may be trivial):

        *) From your work on BioZen, how problematic do you see the mapping  
        of BioPAX on an upper ontology like DOLCE ? At least for some core  
        parts, this what BioZen has done (I mean, among other things). Did  
        you find problems in this ?

        *) You say that the abstract class is used for uncomplicated  
        representation of spatio-temporal-particulars. I see only concepts in  
        the ontology. Where can I find is some examples of this ? (Ok, I'm  
        having a look at the rattus export only)

        *) In population of molecules, dol:part seems to refer both to part- 
        of populations (meaning: subsets of individuals of the populations)  
        and to part-of individuals population-wide (part  of each molecule  
        across the whole population). To me, these two cases seems to be  
        associated to two different semantics, expecially if I think how  
        qualities of a populations affects its parts. But I'm sure this is  
        already covered in the DOLCE framework. Can you elaborate more on this 
        ?

        *) If I understand it well (but maybe I don't), a molecular  
        population is characterized by it's location. What if I want to refer  
        to a molecule population, independently of its location ?

        *) <described-by> concept, isn't this too loose semantically ? Ok, I  
        understand the reasons to keep it simple. But I can say insulin123  
        described-by insulin and something like diabetes described-by insulin  
        (ok, this is a little but stretched, but... it's anyway described-by  
        if this not more specified). Do you think described-by may be further  
        specified (for example: "characterized by", "annotated by"...) ?

        *) Where do you need Correlates-A,B... ? And by the way, I guess this  
        is to state some correspondence with a semantics implicitely encoded  
        in the uri-string. If so, isn't this a little dirty ? Anyway, can you  
        provide an example of a description of correlation that uses these  
        properties ?

        *) Quick dumb question: does causation implies a relation in time ?

        *) on fuzzness.  What do you mean by realness ?
        Like in: John is a thief with belief 0.7 (He is or he is not a thief,  
        holds)
        Or
        John is old with belief 0.7 (I know exactly the age, it's the concept  
        of old that's vague).

        *) As for fuzziness, as well as evolution of description models, this  
        should be in some underlying level, with provenance, trust,  
        versioning, dependencies and so on... or not ?

        These are just questions, the work is great!

        best,
        Andrea



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