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Thanks to Tonya for scribing...

Thurs, March 1 Teleconference Agenda and Minutes: 
 
Time: 11:00 am EDT March 1, 2007 in America/New York
Chairs: Eric Neumann, Tonya Hongsermeier
 
Agenda:
a) Convene, take roll, review record
 
b) Propose next HCLS call March 8, 2007, nominate a scribe
 
c) Update on possible NCBI URI space
 
d) Previous Actions items:
     i. Role definition of SWD editor for controlled vocabularies – ACTION 
ITEM: Revisit Next Week
     ii. Vipul to invite Stan Huff to present his work to this group – ACTION 
ITEM: Revisit Next Week
     iii. Task forces' draft pages – 

Draft Notes, Eric, Vipul submitted link, Susie: what are these notes?  We are 
focused on the demo at the moment, sole goal right now, URI note, who owns?  
Eric:  Please create a draft for BIO RDF  Susan: we have pages that have been 
written, but these are not action item deliverable,  BIO RDF links have been 
posted… URI note 
http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLSIG_BioRDF_Subgroup/Documents?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=getting-information.txt
   Eric had difficulty retrieving notes deliverables from F2F meeting, we still 
should be on track to produce the documents
     iv. Summary of discussion between EricN and Alan on possibility of 
including Tox data in the demo



Eric and Alan discussed question of any proposed therapeutic approaches, 
potential clinical studies that show tox effects, Alan: limiting factor is 
manpower, need someone to ID the use cases, once that is layed out, Matthias 
and Alan can proceed, need a narrative, can you do that?  Eric = we can easily 
mangle data together, Alan: demo is focused on real uses, snippets, but points 
will be technical points, doesn’t have to be a connected narrative, but 
illustrate queries, that even in a fragmented way, illustrate how the data can 
be accessed using RDF,  ACTION ITEM: Eric:  I can deliver probably deliver 
something in the time frame,  Alan I need to know which are the minimal things 
I need to connect to to create your story, just some specific compounds,   
v.   AlanR "grocery list" of data and tools 
I sent some out in the form of ideas of actual things to do in the demo – 
posted to IRC – we’ll talk more on Monday during the face to face, Eric P. will 
not be able to attend design session, but bill be at the hacking session,  
trying to convert GENSET, for data integration, trying to do demo where a 
mapping is in place, then add a new mapping, requery and see new results, will 
do this over cell types, for demoing specificity, will do search against 
Google, compare with SPARQL query, for comparing standard relational model from 
SQL to SPARQL, will want to show that when you have a relational database, 
flash a relations diagram and struggle forward vs SPARQL whereby you can pull 
the classes and properties and improve discoverability efficiency,  for 
Browsing, am thinking about different UI approaches, can use a timeline 
illustration, graph illustration, show how different visualization approaches 
work,  Alan dropped these into IRC log,  Eric: will you be able to id URIs for 
different tissues -  Alan spoke too fast..  Vipul: alan, transitive closure?  
Alan – there is a nice one, taking biopax and adding 4 superproperty relations 
and a transitive role, then suddenly can do new queries, Vipul:  also 
transitive closure over GO relations  Alan:  one of the issues with doing this 
inside the triple store is the question of the triple store supporting it
 
     vi. BIRN data discussion



     vii. F2F planning: demo hack session (Susie and Vipul)
Susie:  Swann folks will host the meeting, will have phones in the room, second 
F2F on the 13th of March to focus on linking the data sets together, 
 
 
e) Additional WWW2007 planning
 
Susie – many opportunities to present the Demo, many conferences, Who will 
present at WWW20007, IVAN: I need names of presenters, title into agenda by end 
of day tomorrow, typically no more than 2 presenters,   Eric : is the HCLS 
track only?  Ivan; No the W3C track, within 90 minutes devoted to Semantic web, 
a 30 minutes lot,  Eric; Alan should be one?    Alan : can one of the SWAN 
folks present on the science context, 4 minutes tops – IVAN – Alan and Susie 
can handle... Alan:  would be nice if Susie did this with me, Ivan:  I’m happy, 
send me a title  ACTION Alan and Susie will propose session to Ivan by tomorrow
 
Eric:  additional planning, Kei – too much echo to scribe – plan is to accept 
8-10 papers for an entire day event, as we go along, if we refine further, will 
let group know what the structure is,  Eric;  will post in future TCs, Kei:  
aiming for 2 keynote speakers, one is Carole Goble, looking for another one, 
ideally someone from industry,  and 5 for a panel discussion,  Susie mentioned 
submission for ISMB,  I will go ahead and submit the HCLS paper we already 
written to special ISMB section on “highlighted papers”,  
 
Next call is next week… review outcome of the Monday meeting
 
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