The example isn't necessarily a disagreement. Both could be true.

I think these really need to be class statements, in any case, to make any sense.

In my representation this is (schematically)

Class protein_a_expression_process_located_in_tissue_b
subclassOf expression and produced some protein_a and located_in some tissue b annotation: has_evidence: traceable author statement, cites evidence source: c

Class protein_a_expression_process_located_in_tissue_b
subclassOf expression and produced some protein_a and located_in some tissue e annotation: has_evidence: traceable author statement, cites evidence source: c

No disagreement. But also not so much power.

I have proposed in other mail (on this list, I think) that one may strengthen this, either as hypothesis, or by conviction by making the "overstatement"

expression and produced some protein_a
equivalentClass protein_a_expression_process_located_in_tissue_b
equivalentClass protein_a_expression_process_located_in_tissue_e

Now if tissue e and tissue b are disjoint, there would be a contradiction.

Or we could hypothesize that

expression and produced some protein_a
equivalentClass
unionOf(protein_a_expression_process_located_in_tissue_b, protein_a_expression_process_located_in_tissue_e)

Given what's been said so far, we can't actually tell which of these two cases is supposed to be meant.

And even my version doesn't handle parts very well. In the case of cellular components, for example, we want to be able to say that it's active in the cell and it's active in the E.R. and not have that be inconsistent because the because every E.R. is part of some cell.

-Alan





On May 17, 2007, at 1:00 PM, Pat Hayes wrote:


> How would you say e.g. "protein a is expressed in tissue b, according to
 source c"?

through something like

<protein_a_expression_process> <has_participant> <protein_a> .
<protein_a_expression_process> <located_in> <tissue_b> .
<protein_a_expression_process> <described_by> <source_c> .

OK, but suppose source d disagrees, and says that a is expressed in e. Now you have

<protein_a_expression_process> <located_in> <tissue_e> .
<protein_a_expression_process> <described_by> <source_d> .

and its all about the same process. What now associates d with e, and c with b? You just have five triple all with the same subject.

Pat Hayes.

-- Matthias Samwald


Yale Center for Medical Informatics, New Haven /
Section on Medical Expert and Knowledge-Based Systems, Vienna /
http://neuroscientific.net


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