Dear all,
 
Thanks for John for getting me on the list. Hi to Christine!
 
As I don't know who else are on the line, let me first briefly introduce myself.
I'm an assistent professor at the dept of Medical Informatics in the U of 
Amsterdam.
My research is on (bio)medical ontologies and formal representation thereof.
I'm co-chairing AMIA's Formal (bio)medical Knowledge Representation Working 
Group (with Stefan Schulz).
I'm member of the Quality Assurance Committee of IHTSDO, who're fostering 
SNOMED CT.
 
If you want to research SNOMED CT, I suggest you get a license for the UMLS.
This will also provide you with the possibility of downloading the release 
distro of SNOMED CT.
You will however be required to submit an annual report (can be short), as you 
are in a non-IHTSDO-member country.
 
As said, per the next release (due tomorrow) SNOMED CT will also be released in 
stated form, together with a script to convert that into OWL.
This can then be classified using a reasoner, e.g., CEL, FaCT or the seamingly 
upcoming CB reasoner (to mention a few).
 
There'll be quite some water under the bridge, but I regard this as a major 
opportunity to put SNOMED CT and reasoning with SNOMED CT to the test.
 
I hope to join tomorrow's call, but it may conflict with private matters.
 
Best regards,
Ronald
 
 

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        From: public-semweb-lifesci-requ...@w3.org 
[mailto:public-semweb-lifesci-requ...@w3.org] On Behalf Of Christine Golbreich
        Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 22:05
        To: John Madden
        Cc: w3c semweb HCLS; Khaled Khelif
        Subject: Re: SNOMED CT
        
        
        Hi John 
         
        Could you please be more explicit  ?
         
        OWL 2 EL profile provides class constructors that are sufficient to 
express  SNOMED CT 
        see
        http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/WD-owl2-profiles-20081202/#OWL_2_EL
        and references of 
        *       5.7 Use Case #7 - The Systematized Nomenclature of Medicine 
[HCLS] 
<http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/New_Features_and_Rationale#Use_Case_.237_-_The_Systematized_Nomenclature_of_Medicine_.5BHCLS.5D>
  
        Christine
         
        2009/1/29 John Madden <john.mad...@me.com>
        


                You can follow Helen's link from an earlier post. Also in a 
forthcoming release of SNOMED CT a script will be included to convert SNOMED in 
a mechanical way into OWL syntax.
                
                Unfortunately, a mechanical translation of SNOMED CT into OWL 
may not help you much, depending on your application. SNOMED CT is not designed 
with the  same logical expressivity of OWL nor with the same formal semantics, 
and therefore the result of a translation is not apt to be useful without 
additional modeling or remodeling. I generally suggest people who want to use 
OWL for a particular application create their own OWL ontology and map to 
SNOMED CT for what it may add.
                
                Also, I see you are in France, which is not a member of the 
IHTSDO (http://www.ihtsdo.org <http://www.ihtsdo.org/> ). If you wish to use 
SNOMED CT, you must look into obtaining a license.
                
                John 



                On Oct 22, 2008, at 8:16 AM, Khaled Khelif wrote:
                
                


                        Hi all,
                        I am looking for the SNOMED CT in OWL.  Any one have 
idea of a
                        version in OWL or in any other convertible format.
                        
                        Thanks in advance
                        
                        Best regards
                        -- 
                        
                        Khaled KHELIF
                        Phd. - Expert engineer on the Sealife Project
                        Edelweiss Research Team - INRIA Sophia Antipolis
                        Address: 2004, route des lucioles, 06902, Sophia 
Antipolis, FRANCE
                        Office: BS09 - Phone : +33 4 97 15 53 16 - Fax : +33 4 
92 38 77 83
                        Web: 
http://www-sop.inria.fr/acacia/personnel/Khaled.Khelif/
                        
                        
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        Christine
        

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