Hi, Regrets - I can't make the call today. Will be at Nano 2011: Medicine, Science, and Engineering (at RPI).
On Apr 30, 2011, at 2:48 PM, Waard, Anita de A (ELS-AMS) wrote: > Dear all, > > We don't have a speaker for Monday but I propose whoever is interested does > dail in to discuss: > 1) timeframe and names for ideas below > 2) how close are we to fulfilling our original use cases? > 3) overlap with other HCLS subgroups > 4) in summary: next steps. > Time & nrs as per usual - will update when I'm on a real computer (now on > mobile). > > Best, > > Anita de Waard > > > On Apr 17, 2011, at 5:02 PM, "Waard, Anita de A (ELS-AMS)" > <a.dewa...@elsevier.com> wrote: > >> Dear all, >> >> Jodi's talk last week seemed to spur on a great amount of discussion, and >> this week, as we don't have a speaker, I would like to spend our time about >> the issues Jodi's talk brought up. These include: >> - Alex's points below - links between the paper and workflow and >> experimental ontologies; >> - The connection (and if there is one) between >> nanopublications/triples/research highlights (will explain on the call) and >> medium-grained structure >> - Uses for medium-grained structure mark up: what would be a good set of use >> cases? Can we find some concrete projects to work on? >> - An issue that has been discussed on a few calls now which we can also >> discuss is the difference between data, author's intent, persuasive >> structure and nanopublication-type summaries. >> - A point that Joanne raised: can we plan a meeting to discuss this stuff in >> person? >> >> I am sure much more will come up, once we start talking. Feel free to send >> around more questions before the call, so we have a list of them to consider >> before we start. >> >> Thanks, and look forward to talking to you tomorrow, >> >> Best, >> >> - Anita. >> >> Anita de Waard >> Disruptive Technologies Director, Elsevier Labs >> http://elsatglabs.com/labs/anita/ >> a.dewa...@elsevier.com >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: public-semweb-lifesci-requ...@w3.org on behalf of Alexander Garcia >> Castro >> Sent: Mon 4/11/2011 11:25 >> To: Jodi Schneider >> Cc:... >> >> Hi Jodi, nice talk. >> >> As a general question, shouldn't the description of experiments be >> something to be described by domain specific ontologies? Also, there are >> repositories for experiments, e.g Array express for microarrays; there are >> also minimal standards for reporting several experimental >> procedures, shouldn't the sections in the document make use of, pointing to, >> these resources? if ORB and other document related ontologies go into >> describing experimental information I am afraid it may be difficult >> to maintain and not very practical to implement. >> >> fine-graining ORB should, in my opinion, make use of other ontologies for >> addressing domain specific issues. for instance, if a researcher wants to go >> deeper into materials and methods most likely the information that will >> allow him/her to "replicate" the experiment will be living somewhere else in >> the web; also, most likely there will be an ontology for specific >> experimental procedures, measures, etc involved. >> >> Once the structure of the document is solved it is easy to use resources >> such as bio2rdf to resolve it against existing resources in the web. if not, >> then authors can easily point to these external resources -AO can easily >> deal with such a use case. my point is, experimental information is highly >> domain specific and there are now ontologies (OBI) and repositories for >> experimental information as well as efforts >> for standardizing minimal amounts of information >> (http://www.mibbi.org/index.php/Main_Page) for reporting specific >> experimental procedures, shouldn't the fine grained structure of ORB seek >> to make use of these resources? >> >> On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 8:09 AM, Jodi Schneider >> <jodi.schnei...@deri.org>wrote: >> >>> Looking forward to talking with you in about an hour. >>> >>> Here are slides for discussion -- about the overall goal of bridging >>> between ORB and the fine-grained ontology with a middle-grained ontology. >>> >>> The other two PDFs show >>> (1) the relationship between ORB and Anita's middle-grained ontology and >>> (2) a first attempt to bridge between DExI (top-level) and Anita's >>> middle-grained ontology. >>> >>> -Jodi >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 10 Apr 2011, at 19:38, Waard, Anita de A (ELS-AMS) wrote: >>> >>>> Dear all, >>>> >>>> Monday's scientific discourse call will focus on an update of the >>> medium-grained ontology alignment by Jodi Schneider: see agenda and call >>> details below, or at >>> http://www.w3.org/wiki/HCLSIG/SWANSIOC/Actions/RhetoricalStructure/meetings/20110411 >>>> >>>> Kind regards, >>>> >>>> Anita >>>> Anita de Waard >>>> Disruptive Technologies Director, Elsevier Labs >>>> http://elsatglabs.com/labs/anita/ >>>> a.dewa...@elsevier.com >>>> >>>> Meeting April 11, 2011, 10 am EST, 3 pm BST, 4 pm CET >>>> [edit] Agenda: >>>> >>>> * Jodi Schneider: 'Medium-grained ontology and alignment' >>>> * Status of ontology development >>>> * AOB >>>> >>>> [edit] Dial-in & IRC Information >>>> >>>> * Dial-In #: +1.617.761.6200 (Cambridge, MA) >>>> * Dial-In #: +33.4.26.46.79.03 (Paris, France) >>>> * Dial-In #: +44.203.318.0479 (London, UK) >>>> * Participant Access Code: 42572 ("HCLS2") >>>> * IRC Channel: irc.w3.org port 6665 channel #HCLS2 use IRC direct >>> link or (see W3C IRC page for details, or see Web IRC) >>>> * Mibbit quick start: Click on mibbit for instant IRC access >>>> * Duration: 1hr >>>> Elsevier B.V. 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