A number of ontologies are starting to use "shortcut" relations. These are 
expanded to more complex class expressions prior to OWL reasoning:

http://precedings.nature.com/documents/5292/version/1
http://berkeleybop.org/~cjm/obo2owl/obo-syntax.html#7

On May 4, 2011, at 9:00 AM, Mark Wilkinson wrote:

> Heya,
> 
> My personal take on this is that it becomes a trade-off.  More granular 
> predicates generally means that you are creating less descriptive Classes 
> (i.e. that the Class does not have a lot of class-defining properties).  So 
> while more descriptive predicates are good for SPARQL querying, they are less 
> good for DL reasoning (class reasoning is ~more powerful than predicate 
> reasoning)
> 
> That's a superficial view, but it's something that we have also been 
> struggling with.  We've tended to try bridging the two approaches by defining 
> elaborate classes with "basic" predicates, and then minting new, more 
> descriptive predicates that join these classes as well.
> 
> Don't know if I am explaining myself clearly :-/
> 
> M
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, 04 May 2011 08:42:21 -0700, James Malone <mal...@ebi.ac.uk> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Scott, All,
>> 
>> I was wondering what the general take is on predicates in RDF 
>> representations used by the HCLS group. I've been looking at our RDF model 
>> for Gene Expression Atlas at EBI and presently I'm using the same "is_about" 
>> relation for a lot of the predicates as this is the lowest level of 
>> constraint from the OBO Foundry folks for some of these information 
>> relations. Alan Ruttenberg tells me that empirical evidence suggests that 
>> using a larger number of relationships correlates to poorer ontologies. 
>> However, I've also been told from various RDF advocates that having more 
>> granular level predicates is useful for querying. Are there any thoughts 
>> from the group on this? I have no preconceptions here (I have no reason to 
>> disbelieve Alan or the RDF folks) so open to thoughts and suggestions.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> James
>> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Dr. Mark Wilkinson
> Assistant Professor, Medical Genetics
> PI Bioinformatics, Institute for Heart and Lung Health
> St. Paul's Hospital/UBC
> Vancouver, BC, Canada
> 



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