sounds good to me.
sorry i got cut off as we were saying goodbyes ;p

On 29/04/13 17:20, Michel Dumontier wrote:
given the bank holiday next week, perhaps we can schedule a call for tuesday?

m.


On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 5:04 PM, Alasdair J G Gray <alasdair.g...@manchester.ac.uk <mailto:alasdair.g...@manchester.ac.uk>> wrote:

    Hi All,

    Minutes from today's call attached.

    Alasdair


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    On 29 Apr 2013, at 13:42, Michel Dumontier
    <michel.dumont...@gmail.com <mailto:michel.dumont...@gmail.com>>
    wrote:

    Hi all,
     Here's the meeting info for today:

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    Toll / Intl #: +1 (646) 583-7415 <tel:%2B1%20%28646%29%20583-7415>
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    m.


    On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Health Care Life Sciences
    <w3.h...@gmail.com <mailto:w3.h...@gmail.com>> wrote:

        more details »
        
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        This meeting will be held using fuze: please join at **Michel
        will send fuzebox info**

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        Duration: ~1 hour
        (Variable) frequency: ~weekly
        Convener: M. Scott Marshall

        Session Theme: Metadata for data discovery and dataset
        description using SPARQL

        * a model for provenance, versioning, format and availability
        - Michel, Alasdair
        Relevant docs:
        the abstraction
        -
        
https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1e6qsxPkc-qKecVTJGJePE1Nuy2sD8Puu-FsEtUtGC-o/edit?disco=AAAAAFWHcnw
        sample implementation using chembl:
        -
        https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B4y0zfdRviKsS1l2NEttN3pfc1k/edit
        * Remaining metadata attributes in working draft - All (time
        allowing)
        - Working draft:
        -
        
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aoy0zfdRviKsdFJWTDFpblNXc3BtelhrdEpNYTdvbXc#gid=1
        * AOB

        **********************************************************************

        Michel and Alasdair have model proposal for a dataset version
        and formatting: thrashing out
        the final details and will present as the first item at the
        next call.

        Focus on provenance and origin:

        Version: literal
        Dates: Full date time with timezone
        Modified by: URI for a person
        Source: Needs to be present and specify the version/date of
        the source
        Prior version: point to URI
        Superseding version: Maintenance issue; can be inferred;
        provenance vocabularies
        only point backwards
        Subset/superset: only assert that you are a subset of another one
        Frequency of change: estimate; use a URI for the value, e.g.
        dublin core
        Latency of change: time it takes for changes in the raw data
        to appear in the derived
        dataset. Very specialised and probably not to be included
        created with: realised we need to point to a tool that was
        used to generate the dataset;
        particularly for D2R or Bio2RDF point to versions of scripts

        Aggregation of datasets is covered by source/derivation:
        simply include multiple sources

        Availability

        Availability: raises a maintenance issue; could capture
        available until X if it is known that
        it is no longer going to be available. Good for registry use
        case, but not necessarily for
        data publishing. It is a monitoring property.
        Publisher: need to decide a value set: literal/URI
        Format: mime type of the file, not the vocabularies used;
        EDAM, biosharing as
        candidates
        data item HTML template: to automate access
        RDF dump: available in multiple formats
        SPARQL endpoint
        API: point to a top level page about the API rather than each
        individual method
        Catlog/registry: point to records in registries. Inverse
        relationship with the registries











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    Chair, W3C Semantic Web for Health Care and the Life Sciences
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