So the worry here is a scenario where an attacker tricks a user to go to evil.com which does an evil POST to webstore.com. And at the same time the attacker launches a DNS rebind attack on the user for the webstore.com domain name such that the OPTIONS request goes to an attacker controlled server which approves the POST, but then lets the actual post go to the real webstore.com server?

If so, couldn't the user simply trick the user to go to webstore.com, and use a DNS rebind attack so that when webstore.com/ is fetched it returns a HTML page that contains script that uses normal XHR to do a POST to webstore.com. When the POST happens the attacker lets that go to the real webstore.com server.

I.e. I don't see how Cross-site XHR in combination with DNS rebind attacks lets you do something that DNS rebind attacks doesn't already let you do on it's own.

XXX = Cross-site Extensions to XHR. So basically XHR+AC spec.

/ Jonas

Chris Wilson wrote:
Yes, DNS rebinding is one of the major attack vectors I was talking about.  If 
the access controls are negotiated independently of the actual 
request/response, this is nearly always a concern.  (Yes, you could require 
follow-ups to go to the same IP address; that's both a pain to actually 
implement (because a high-level request needs low-level access; typically, I 
don't believe we need to know about the IP address at the XHR level) and 
somewhat confusing (because it will break if there's normal, permitted DNS 
round-robin going on, e.g.).

Maciej, does XXX = XHR L2 or XDR?

-----Original Message-----
From: Maciej Stachowiak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 1:25 PM
To: Jonas Sicking
Cc: Chris Wilson; Web API WG (public); Eric Lawrence; Zhenbin Xu; Gideon Cohn; 
Sharath Udupa; Doug Stamper; Marc Silbey
Subject: Re: IE Team's Proposal for Cross Site Requests


On Mar 14, 2008, at 11:24 AM, Jonas Sicking wrote:

Can you describe what you mean by "persistent allow" design?

Anne and I discussed this comment on IRC. One possible flaw is that
the OPTIONS request to guard against an unaware server receiving cross-
domain POST or other methods is subject to a DNS rebinding attack
(though this could be fixable by requiring the OPTIONS and the follow-
up request to go to the same IP or something along those lines). I'm
not sure if this is the vulnerability Chris had in mind. I don't think
XXX has the same vulnerabilities as Flash though, because the access-
control headers are not an out-of-band control file so the actual
access control check can't be bypassed via DNS rebinding, only the
method check.

  - Maciej


/ Jonas

Chris Wilson wrote:
Oops.  Obviously, this was not to go to the whole group.
I've been asked a lot, over the last week and a half, why we
implemented XDR rather than the current cross-domain XHR
proposals.  The short version is, as Sunava discusses in the
summary of this mail, that x-domain XHR (and Flash's approach, et
al) is subject to specific x-domain injection attacks because of
its persistent-allow design.
*From:* Chris Wilson
*Sent:* Friday, March 14, 2008 11:00 AM
*To:* Sunava Dutta; Web API WG (public)
*Cc:* Eric Lawrence; Zhenbin Xu; Gideon Cohn; Sharath Udupa; Doug
Stamper; Marc Silbey
*Subject:* RE: IE Team's Proposal for Cross Site Requests
I'd move half the summary section up front to make it clear why
we're not wild about x-domain XHR.  You need to lead with that.
*From:* Sunava Dutta
*Sent:* Thursday, March 13, 2008 8:47 PM
*To:* Sunava Dutta; Web API WG (public)
*Cc:* Eric Lawrence; Chris Wilson; Zhenbin Xu; Gideon Cohn; Sharath
Udupa; Doug Stamper; Marc Silbey
*Subject:* IE Team's Proposal for Cross Site Requests
Purpose
XDR helps web developers to create secure mashups, replacing less
secure or non-performant approaches, including SCRIPT SRC'ing
content or IFRAME injection.
Microsoft would like to submit XDR to the W3C for standardization
so that other browsers can benefit from this technology.
 XDomainRequest (XDR)
   Table of Contents
1.0   Summary
2.0   Background: /Overview of how XDR allows cross site requests/
3.0   API Documentation: /Lists the programming interface/methods/
properties/
4.0   Security Model Flowchart: /Highlights the security checks
that IE8 makes for an XDR Request./
5.0   Sample Site and Script: /For developers wishing to create an
XDR page./
6.0   Developer Benefits of using XDR: /Covers XDR's strengths by
demonstrating XDR's goals of security and simplicity./
7.0   Developer Release Notes: /A short bulleted list of issues
developers should we aware of when using the object and a summary
of what XDR cannot do./
1.0 Summary
/With* Cross Domain Request* *(XDR)* developers can create cross
site data aggregation scenarios. Similar to the XMLHttpRequest
object  but with a simpler programming model, this request, called
XDomainRequest, is an easy way to make anonymous requests to third
party sites that support XDR and opt in to making their data
available across domains. Three lines of code will have you making
basic cross site requests. This will ensure data aggregation for
public sites such as blogs etc will be simple, secure and fast. XDR
is an approach designed from the grounds up with a focus on
security. We understand the current cross domain XMLHTTPRequest
proposal and recognize its ability to provide a broader set of
services particularly around declarative auditing for access
control based scenarios and authenticated connections. It does
however come at the risk of more complexity and surface area of
attack. While these are certainly compelling scenarios we realize
that existing implementations have bugs (linked 1 
<http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flashplayer/articles/fplayer9_security.html
, 2 <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=389508>), some
of which are resolved from the past like TOUCTOU and others like
DNS Rebinding remain mostly unaddressed. In addition, maintaining
configuration is challenging post deployment as Flash has
encountered <http://blog.monstuff.com/archives/000302.html>
(wildcarding) in the past. The IE team is not comfortable
implementing a feature with a high surface area of attack and open/
incoming security issues and proposes XDR as a safer alternative.///
2.0 Background
 Browsers enforce the same site origin policy, which blocks web
pages from accessing data from another domain. Websites often work
around this policy by having their server request content from
another site's server in the backend, thus circumventing the check
within the browser.

     Text Box: Figure 1 - IE7 and below need to make a request to
the mashup server which then needs to be proxied to the web server.
In IE8 web pages can simply make a cross domain data request within
the browser using the new /XDomainRequest/ object instead of a
server-to-server requests.
Cross domain requests require mutual consent between the webpage
and server. You can initiate a cross domain request in your webpage
by creating a /xdomainrequest /object off the window object and
opening a connection to a particular domain. The browser will
request data from the domain's server by sending a /XDomainRequest:
1 /header. It will only complete the connection if the server
responds with a XDomainRequestAllowed header with the value "1" for
true.
For example, a server's asp page includes the following response
header:
Response.AppendHeader("XDomainRequestAllowed","1");
  *Security note: *Cross domain requests are anonymous to protect
user data, which means that servers cannot easily find out who is
requesting data. As a result, you only want to request and respond
with cross domain data that is not sensitive or personally
identifiable.

3.0 API Documentation
* *
*Methods*
Once you create a xdomainrequest object, you can use the /open()/
method to open a connection with a domain's server. This method
supports the GET and POST HTTP methods and takes the URL to connect
to as a parameter. Once you've opened a connection, you can use
the /send()/ method to send a data string to the server for
processing if needed. For example:
// 1. Create XDR object
xdr = new XDomainRequest();
//2. Open connection with server using POST method
xdr.open("POST", "http://www.contoso.com/xdr.txt";)
//3. Send string data to server
xdr.send("data to be processed")
XDR also has an /abort() /method to cancel an active request, which
takes no parameters. Data is not available on an abort.
* *
*Properties*
*         *responseText - *After the server responds, you can
retrieve the data string through the read-only /responseText /
property.
*         *timeout - *You can use the /timeout /property to set or
retrieve the number of milliseconds the browser should wait for a
server to respond.   IE defaults to no timeout if this property is
not explicitly set. If the request times out, data is not available.
*         *contentType *- If you are posting data to the server,
use the /contentType /property to define the content type string
that will be sent to the server. If you are using a GET then this
property will allow you to read the content type.
*Events*
XDR has the following events:
*         *onerror* - this event fires when there is an error and
the request cannot be completed. For example, the network is not
available
*         *ontimeout *- this event fires when the request reaches
its timeout as defined by the above timeOut property. If the
request times out data is not available.
*         *onprogress -* this event fires while the server responds
to the request by streaming data back to the browser.
*         *onload *- this event fires when the cross domain request
is complete and data is available.
*Security note: *Cross domain requests can only be sent and
received from a web page to URLs in the following IE zones. We
discourage Intranet sites from making XDR data available to help
prevent intranet data from leaking to malicious Internet sites.


*Webpage equests data from a URL in the following zone:*


Local

Intranet

Trusted (Intranet)

Trusted (Internet)

Internet

Restricted
*Webpage is in the following zone:*

Local

Allow

Allow

Allow

Allow

Allow

Block
Intranet

Block

Allow

Allow

Allow

Allow

Block
Trusted (Intranet)

Block

Allow

Allow

Allow

Allow

Block
Trusted (Internet)

Block

Block

Block

Allow

Allow

Block
Internet

Block

Block

Block

Allow

Allow

Block
Restricted

Block

Block

Block

Block

Block

Block
* *
*Security note: *When using these XDR, safely handling data
provided by another web application is a critical operation.
For instance, the response could be parsed directly by Javascript,
or it could be evaluated with a freely available JSON parser (see 
http://www.json.org/)
 or it could be inserted into a DOM as static text
(using .innerText).
* *
* *
* *
*Server Side*
The browser will request data from the domain's server by sending
a /XDomainRequest: 1 /header. It will only complete the connection
if the server responds with an XDomainRequestAllowed header with
the value "1" for true.
For example, a server's asp page includes the following response
header:
*Response.AppendHeader("XDomainRequestAllowed","1");*
This can be done in IIS, for example, using an ASP.NET page. The
line of code below can be embedded in your ASP page to return the
header.
*<<% Response.AddHeader  "XDomainRequestAllowed","1" %>Data*
* *
* *
4.0 Security Model Flowchart
XDR Flowchart
5.0 Sample Site and Script
Please refer to the AJAX Hands on Labs 
<http://code.msdn.microsoft.com/iemix08labs/Release/ProjectReleases.aspx?ReleaseId=590
on MSDN for demo script. This will need to be set up on your
machine from the resource files.
6.0 Other Developer Benefits of Using XDR
1.        Simple development model.
a.        On the server, the server operator must simply add one
new header to his HTTP response indicating that cross-domain
sources may receive the data.  HTTP Headers can be added by any CGI-
style process (PHP/ASPNET/etc) or by the web server software
(Apache/IIS/etc) itself.
b.        On the client, the XDR object is all about cross-domain-
requests.  Because XDR is a new object we are not forced to "bolt
on" cross-domain security.  For example, XDR has no means of adding
a custom header, because custom headers are dangerous for cross-
domain security as the current web model does not expect a custom
header being sent across domains. We've encountered experiences
when web applications in the past if encountering a custom header
using XHR assume it's coming from the same site.
2.        Provably secure
a.        The XDR security model is simple.  The client sends a
request that clearly identifies its cross-domain nature, and the
server must respond in kind for the Same-Origin-Policy to be
relaxed such that the client can read the response.  If the server
does not set the response header (a "non-participating" server),
the client script is not permitted to read the response or
determine anything about the target server.
b.        XDR is very tightly scoped to minimize the risk of
increasing security exposure of the browser.
1.        Specifically, any request sent by XDR could also be
emitted by a properly coded HTML FORM object.  Hence, any "non-
participating" web server put at risk by XDR is also at risk from
simple HTML.
Note: The only additional exposure XDR adds is the ability of the
client to set a specific Content-Type header.
2.        As XDR strips all credentials and cookies, it prevents
even less attack surface for use in a Cross-Site-Request-Forgery
(CSRF) <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross-site_request_forgery>
attack than a HTML Form.
c.        XDR attempts to block cross-zone/protocol requests, an
ASR which exceeds that undertaken elsewhere in the browser (e.g.
SCRIPT SRC) due to compatibility concerns.
3.        Improved Access  Control "Locality"
a.        Unlike policy file-based security, the XDR handshake is a
part of the HTTP request and response.  This means that XDR is not
at risk from DNS-Rebinding <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNS_rebinding
or Time-of-Check-Time-of-Use 
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time-of-check-to-time-of-use
attacks.
b.        Policy files must be located in a particular location on
the server, which may cause operational problems for users with
limited permissions on the server.  For example, consider the
shared hosting case, where only one admin may write to the server
root, but many users have permissions to write to sub-folders.  The
users must petition the admin for an update to the policy file.
4.        Access-Control Flexibility
a.        As Access-Control is based on a per-response basis, the
server may choose to allow or deny access based upon any criteria
desired.  For instance, Referer of client, time of day, number of
requests per hour, etc, etc.
b.        The XDR security model prevents attackers from easily
determining the access control rules of the server.  The server may
keep their rules as a trade secret.
7.0 Developer Release Notes
*         Not yet available across browsers; not a W3C standard.
*         Services must be explicitly coded to operate with XDR.
*         As HTTP Methods are deliberately limited, standard REST-
based interop is not possible.
*         As credentials are not provided by the browser, the
client must transmit them in the request body.  This typically
should not be a problem but this could prevent use of the HttpOnly
attribute on cookies that must be sent for credentials.
*         The XDR handshake is HTTP-specific and cannot be directly
translated for reuse in other protocols or situations (E.g. raw
socket access).    --
*Sunava D*utta
Program Manager (AJAX) - Developer Experience Team, Internet Explorer
One Microsoft Way, Redmond WA 98052
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