On Tue, 03 Dec 2013 19:27:15 +0100, Jonas Sicking <jo...@sicking.cc> wrote:

On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 9:40 PM, Marcos Caceres <w...@marcosc.com> wrote:
What I think we should have is something like:

"chrome": {
"back": true
}

Yep, this is currently captured here:
https://github.com/w3c/manifest/issues/76

Those of us working on this still need to investigate FxOS a bit more to see what people are using in practice and why (e.g., how much granularity do we really need? to the button level “forward”/“back", or can we just say “navigation-bar”, etc.). Captured here:
https://github.com/w3c-webmob/installable-webapps/issues/17

Simply wanting *just* the back/forward buttons has been common. I
could imagine apps relying on the "reload" button as well.

Yes. Especially for things that come off the web (as opposed to packaged apps).

I have not heard of, but I could imagine, apps wanting to rely in the
title of the page being displayed.

Quite possibly
[use case snipped]

The "url bar" is a very common separate UI piece on most platforms.
However it's unclear how a URL bar would work in a standalone UI.
Would the user be able to type any URL while still remaining in within
the standalone UI? Seems surprising if we imagine that the standalone
UI uses the icon of the app. Though we could always open any typed URL
in the default browser. Anyway, staying away from url-bar seems safer
for now.

Yes. In-apge Search is something that might also be useful within an app - especially if you can find out it is happening and respond to it intelligently if the app hides things by default.

Beyond that I think platforms diverge a lot. In FirefoxOS we're
planning on adding a whole menu which contains things like "bookmark",
"save", "share", "reading list" etc.

Hmm. I don't think platforms diverge that widely, but I agree that we should expect different platforms to offer different functions. We probably want to agree on what we call anything, rather than have different names for each different browser (кладки is intuitive to most people who will develop for Yandex, but might not be the best choice overall ;) ).

cheers

Chaals

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