On 03/02/17 17:38, Ryan Sleevi wrote:
On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 9:11 AM, Rob Stradling wrote:
    Ryan, what targets
    (filesize/performance/reliability/reachability/etc) would CAs need
    to meet before it would become viable to reintroduce CRLs to the
    WebPKI (i.e., for Chrome to start checking CRLs and hard-failing if
    they're unobtainable)?

Happy to have that discussion at another time, but it's not germane to
the discussion at hand, as I clearly indicated in the original message.
It's necessary, but not sufficient, to have that, and we're not
presently proposing addressing all the other necessary conditions. Baby
steps.

Ryan, before I accept your side-stepping of my question, I would like everybody to fully understand precisely why you're saying that effective revocation checking would be "not sufficient" as an alternative to reducing certificate lifetimes. ISTM that lots of folks do not grok you yet, so please humour me for a moment...

Let's pretend, for the duration of this sub-thread, that revocation is already 100% effective. i.e., Whenever a CA clicks the "Revoke" button, magic things happen, and within an acceptably short period of time 100% of users are prevented from relying on that certificate.

Please would you enumerate precisely what, under these (currently pretend) conditions, you would consider to be the security benefits (that aren't already provided by effective revocation) of reducing the maximum permitted certificate lifetime?

Thanks.

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Rob Stradling
Senior Research & Development Scientist
COMODO - Creating Trust Online

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