> On Feb 27, 2017, at 4:29 PM, Ryan Sleevi <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 4:22 PM, Peter Bowen <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> Second, the BRs and EVGs have redefined the content of the attributes 
>> vis-a-vis X.520, so I think it makes sense to have our own version.
>> 
>> I think this is a much more compelling argument, since we've certainly seen 
>> some confusion from members with respect to the normative constraints of 
>> what this content must cover. Despite the Baseline Requirements defining 
>> rules for the validation/verification of this information, the question of 
>> what this contains (e.g. "country") is surprisingly one that's tripped up 
>> more than a few member CAs.
> 
> Given this, would it make sense to add comments about what content is allowed 
> for certain attributes?  Right now the syntax is defined but not the 
> permitted content.
> 
> I'm a little nervous about duplicating content in a way that could be seen as 
> normative. I think one approach to that would be to set the ASN.1 module 
> (either as an appendix or a dedicated Guideline), refer to the appropriate 
> guideline as to the content, and within the Guideline, describe what is 
> permitted.
> 
> How do you feel about that approach? I think you're right that we've had 
> enough subtle slight divergence between the X.500/X.520 idealized DIT and the 
> real-world of the WebPKI, so this seems much less a case of actively 
> 'forking' a spec so much as recognize it's been 'forked' since 2012 (at a 
> minimum, although in practice, much earlier)

I think pointers to the guideline are perfect.  There have been discussions 
about making the guideline clearer on content.  Maybe we can have a draft for 
review in RTP and target a vote shortly after.

>  
> Given that it seems that these were never used (see other thread) should we 
> fix this?
> 
> Yeah, given that, let's fix it and do it right. It does sound like the impact 
> of changing OIDs is so minimal that the ecosystem can handle the divergence, 
> and that lets us get our OID arc clean.
> 
> So it sounds like two, possibly three ballots:
> - X.520 vs RFC5280 vs RFC5912 , aligning both the technical content and the 
> descriptive content and adopting it
>   - Option 1 - By updating the EVGs & BRs with this
>   - Option 2 - By adopting as a separate document
> - .onion & Tor cleanup of OID arcs and ASN.1 module (affects EVGs) 
> 
> Does that sound right?

I like Option 1.  I want to make sure that anything we do matches RFC 5280 
syntax and ideally X.520 syntax, so anyone using the grammars defined in either 
can process the certificates.
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