On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 8:39 PM Kirk Hall <[email protected]> wrote:
> Thanks for the list, Wayne. Responses inline. Remember, a Subcommittee > has no real power, it’s just a place where members interested in a subject > who want to be involved in drafting proposals for the whole SCWG can work > together – we have 10+ years of successful experience with this approach, > and are just continuing it at the SCWG level. > > > > [Wayne] To respond to Kirk's question about subjects that need to be > better defined, here is a start: > > > > * Do Subcommittees have Chairs and if so how are they appointed? [KH] > Yes, for the same reason we had Chairs for old-style Working Groups of the > Forum. There is no change here (BTW, our Bylaws didn’t include rules for > old WG Chairs either – somehow it all worked out). Dean has correctly > listed what a Chair does. > This answer doesn't suffice, because our new Bylaws do change things substantially, and the reasons for the old structure of WGs doesn't just naturally change to SCWGs. > * How are Subcommittees chartered? (are they chartered?) [KH] Same as in > the past when we created old-style WGs of the Forum – by ballots, in this > case SCWG ballots. No change here. > This is half correct, but misses the point of the question. The SCWG is responsible for defining how Subcommittees are created, per our Bylaws - and it has not. Yet. > * What are the required contents of a Subcommittee charter? [KH] Same as > in the past when we created old-style WGs of the Forum – by ballot > language. We never had problems in drafting the ballots that created old > WGs of the Forum – see Ballots 109, 128, 138, 143, 165, and 203. No change > here. What problem do you see from following our past procedure? > Obviously, there's nothing you can point to support this interpretation, and your interpretation itself isn't supported by the Bylaws, because the SCWG does not define what you just stated. > > > * How are Subcommittees operated? [KH] In the same fashion as old WGs of > the Forum were operated – teleconferences and informal procedures. No > change here. > Again, this is not consistent with the Bylaws. This is your proposed path, but this is not the defined path. > > > * What information is public/private? Do they have their own mailing > lists? [KH] Same as the way information was handled for the old WGs of the > Forum – I think old WG information has always been posted to the Public > list, so the new Subcommittees will simply post to the SCWG list, which is > public. No change here. > Again, this is not consistent with the Bylaws. This is your proposed path, but this is not the defined path. > * How are Subcommittees dissolved? [KH] In the same fashion as old WGs of > the Forum were handled. If a Subcommittee has no work to do, it can stop > meeting until it has more work, or I suppose we can have a new ballot to > dissolve the Subcommittee, if we care. Most Subcommittees will have > ongoing work to do (Validation, NetSec), so should be perpetual. We may > create other Subcommittees that should have a specific termination date in > the ballot that creates the Subcommittee it if we believe that is > appropriate, as we did once in the past. No change here. > > Again, this is not consistent with the Bylaws. This is your proposed path, but this is not the defined path. >
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