Thanks again. I'm pretty easy going, though from the east. I probably
have my guard up here despite being a supporter from months before the
TechCrunch demo. I don't feel it necessary to join one camp or
another. As much as some hate the fact, the web has it's agenda
outside of our lists and we'll all end supporting things we don't love
for one reason or another. Ever do an IE6 hack?

On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Pádraic Brady <[email protected]> wrote:
> I can relate. Though usually I lose my temper on my blog and rant the
> bejesus out of something ;). I find that an excellent outlet for my
> emotions. Not everyone agrees, but a good rant can clear the air very
> quickly. May I chime in and just say that all out ridicule is unnecessary.
> It may be good natured (I'm Irish - and I can be a wonderfully sacastic git
> at times) but it easily becomes offensive in large enough doses. So in turn,
> I apologise if the sarcasm of my original response offended. It was intended
> as a mild jab that perhaps missed the mark on the good natured scale.
>
> Pádraic Brady
>
> http://blog.astrumfutura.com
> http://www.survivethedeepend.com
> OpenID Europe Foundation Irish Representative
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Matthew Terenzio <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Sat, October 17, 2009 12:13:05 AM
> Subject: [pubsubhubbub] Re: Article: Pubsubhubbub And PHP - Part 1:
> Pubsubhubbub Introduction, Contrast With rssCloud, And Simple Publisher
> Implementation
>
>
> Obviously, I'm hyper-emotional folks. I apologize. Everyone is
> entitled to their opinions and I shouldn't let it bother me.
> Sorry to disrupt things.
>
> And sorry to Bob for losing my temper.
>
> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 6:29 PM, Matthew Terenzio <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>> Why not just get personal Bob, Like, "Matt you are an idiot." peace is
>> war huh? Shut the hell up. By your definition, so does the hub poll.
>> It makes one request. The cloud makes one. So there you go, smart ass.
>>  I've had it with this list thanks to jerks like Bob.
>>
>> I'm sorry, others,  but there is only so much one can take of this
>> type of stuff. I want to get things done, not fight.
>>
>> Don't bother replying Bob, I'll be off the list by then.
>>
>> For the record, I'm still planning on finishing my implementaion of
>> PSHB. I love what you guys are doing.
>>
>> Padraic, I think your article was wonderful, by the way. I tried to
>> make my initial statement neutral and made that perfectly clear. I
>> wasn't saying you didn't understand the spec, just that I didn't want
>> to get piled on again. I'll follow your work closely.
>>
>> Thanks, everyone else who has been courteous.
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 5:21 PM, Bob Wyman <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Matthew Terenzio <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>> rssCloud merely makes a "request" upon being pinged. No ping, no
>>>> request.
>>>
>>> Polling is "not polling"?
>>>
>>> While we're at it, why don't we clean up some other confusions...
>>> Consider:
>>>
>>> Love is hate, peace is war...
>>>
>>> bob wyman
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Matthew Terenzio <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I think it might help the community to stop saying that PubSubHubbub
>>>> eliminates the need for polling while rssCloud does not.
>>>>
>>>> That just simply isn't true. Polling is what RSS or Atom does when
>>>> their is neither PSHB or rssCloud.
>>>>
>>>> rssCloud merely makes a "request" upon being pinged. No ping, no
>>>> request.
>>>>
>>>> Please don't come back with more about thundering herds. I fully
>>>> understand both specs.
>>>>
>>>> I'm not trying to make a statement about whether one spec is better or
>>>> not, just addressing the mistaken use of the term polling. I've seen
>>>> it more than once and it may confuse the less technical people trying
>>>> to understand these things.
>>>
>>>
>>
>

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