Sounds good to me.

Best regards,
Fabricio Aguiar
Software Engineer, Pulp Project
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On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 1:38 PM David Davis <davidda...@redhat.com> wrote:

> That sounds good to me. What if for the GA, we just not create a new
> version if content hasn't changed and then create an issue for post-GA to
> add a setting to always create a new version?
>
> David
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 3:28 AM Fabricio Aguiar <fabricio.agu...@redhat.com>
> wrote:
>
>> how about making a default setting and document, adverting why the
>> default is (bump/not bump the version).
>> This way we give autonomy to users to decide whether to bump or not the
>> version
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Fabricio Aguiar
>> Software Engineer, Pulp Project
>> Red Hat Brazil - Latam <https://www.redhat.com/>
>> +55 11 999652368
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 10:52 PM Mike DePaulo <mikedep...@redhat.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 4:50 PM Mike DePaulo <mikedep...@redhat.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 4:39 PM Brian Bouterse <bmbou...@redhat.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> tl;dr I'm +1 to making this switch.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 3:51 PM David Davis <davidda...@redhat.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Currently in pulp, syncs always create repository versions regardless
>>>>>> of whether or not any content changed. One of the tasks[0] for 3.0 GA is 
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> document this behavior. However, I've heard several complaints about this
>>>>>> from users so I wonder if it's worth reconsidering.
>>>>>>
>>>>> I love making users happy, but the complaints didn't resonate as much
>>>>> with me because another user with a different subjective preferences could
>>>>> walk up and complain after we switch it. I try to listen for user
>>>>> complaints that come with objective claims of usability.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Here are some reasons against always creating repo versions:
>>>>>> - They were meant to serve as a historical record but this
>>>>>> information is available by looking at the tasks api
>>>>>> - It creates additional, unnecessary versions and bumps the latest
>>>>>> version number of the repo
>>>>>> - If we ever have a feature to retain only the latest X repo
>>>>>> versions, it'll be less useful since some repo versions may not have any
>>>>>> changes
>>>>>>
>>>>> This last bullet I see an objective reason to make no-content-change
>>>>> repo versions not increment. Users concerned about their cron jobs not
>>>>> running can check the task records. Users get RepositoryVersions that
>>>>> always include change and are therefore more meaningful (perhaps that was
>>>>> Bin Li's objective claim). Also future users could get a repo-version
>>>>> retention option which would be difficult to create if we don't switch 
>>>>> this.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From a black-box perspective, how about some sort of compromise
>>>> solution? Like a minor version number being bumped if there is a no-change
>>>> sync. Or a separate field like "1st identical repo version."
>>>>
>>>
>>> Whether we implement a compromise or not, this current proposal should
>>> be implemented 1st.
>>>
>>> +1
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Any thoughts? I'd like to get this on the sprint by Wednesday so it
>>>>>> can be changed before the dev freeze date of Nov 12.
>>>>>>
>>>>> +1 to making this change
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [0] https://pulp.plan.io/issues/3308
>>>>>>
>>>>>> David
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>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>
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