Tags in the container world are cheap. Let's add a "http" tag that points
to the same image as latest.
I think, we should additionally provide the released images as an https
version maybe tagged "x.y-https", but this can/should be postponed. Let's
first get comfy with ssl in the latest build.

On Fri, May 14, 2021 at 4:06 PM Fabricio Aguiar <fagui...@redhat.com> wrote:

> Bump!
>
> Single container PR [1] needs some adjustments, I plan to address them
> once we decide about the tags.
> Current PR makes:
> *Tag* *Scheme*
> latest http
> https https
> x.y http
>
> Please share your feedback about the tag/scheme until May 19
>
> [1] https://github.com/pulp/pulp-oci-images/pull/73
>
> Best regards,
> Fabricio Aguiar
> Software Engineer, Pulp Project
> Red Hat Brazil - Latam <https://www.redhat.com/>
> +55 22 999000595
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 9:07 AM Ina Panova <ipan...@redhat.com> wrote:
>
>> I would get rid of the latest tag because it is non-deterministic and
>> would keep http/https tags only.
>>
>> --------
>> Regards,
>>
>> Ina Panova
>> Senior Software Engineer| Pulp| Red Hat Inc.
>>
>> "Do not go where the path may lead,
>>  go instead where there is no path and leave a trail."
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 6:08 PM Matthias Dellweg <mdell...@redhat.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I would tag http and https and then latest as the same as http. Then we
>>> can write an announcement that we will switch latest from http to https or
>>> drop latest altogether.
>>> The question about release tags is a good one. I think, we need both
>>> there too.
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 6:05 PM David Davis <davidda...@redhat.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I feel like ideally, https would be the default (ie latest). However,
>>>> then we are going to break all the release branches for pulpcore and
>>>> plugins that are pointing to latest but not expecting https.
>>>>
>>>> Hopefully people will weigh in here.
>>>>
>>>> David
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 11:55 AM Fabricio Aguiar <fagui...@redhat.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 11:52 AM David Davis <davidda...@redhat.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> To confirm, the "latest" tag will continue to ship with http? I
>>>>>> imagine most users will end up with http then.
>>>>>>
>>>>> I can modify the PR and make https the default
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, what (if anything) do we do about y release tags (e.g. the
>>>>>> upcoming 3.13 tag)? Do they continue to ship with http?
>>>>>>
>>>>> I think release tags can be https
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> David
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 10:51 AM Brian Bouterse <bmbou...@redhat.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> awwww yisssss
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 10:46 AM Fabricio Aguiar <fagui...@redhat.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I changed https://github.com/pulp/pulp-oci-images/pull/73 to ship
>>>>>>>> both,
>>>>>>>> latest as is, and the new tag: https
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>> Fabricio Aguiar
>>>>>>>> Software Engineer, Pulp Project
>>>>>>>> Red Hat Brazil - Latam <https://www.redhat.com/>
>>>>>>>> +55 22 999000595
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 11:41 AM Brian Bouterse <bmbou...@redhat.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> +1 to this observation, we probably need to either ship both or
>>>>>>>>> make it configurable somehow. Shipping both is probably easier on 
>>>>>>>>> users.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 5:11 AM Matthias Dellweg <
>>>>>>>>> mdell...@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This is a great piece of work!
>>>>>>>>>> The problem I see is that the SSL free container image may be
>>>>>>>>>> used in places we do not control. And having this http based 
>>>>>>>>>> container
>>>>>>>>>> equipped with an external https reverse proxy is imho a valid use 
>>>>>>>>>> case.
>>>>>>>>>> Therefore i would prefer, if we could provide both versions of
>>>>>>>>>> the image (with and without SSL) as different tags.
>>>>>>>>>> This would also give us the opportunity to switch the plugins one
>>>>>>>>>> by one to use the new container.
>>>>>>>>>> Ideally, the SSL container would be a thin OCI-layer on top of
>>>>>>>>>> the http version.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 10:10 PM Fabricio Aguiar <
>>>>>>>>>> fagui...@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I finally made pulp_container CI work with https,
>>>>>>>>>>> I also did some changes on pulp_installer, I believe these
>>>>>>>>>>> changes will make it possible to run functional tests on dev 
>>>>>>>>>>> environment.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I think now it is a matter of deciding when is the best time to
>>>>>>>>>>> merge the PR on the single container and if latest tag should be 
>>>>>>>>>>> https or
>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> PRs:
>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/pulp/pulp-oci-images/pull/73
>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/pulp/pulp_installer/pull/614
>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/pulp/plugin_template/pull/379
>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/pulp/pulpcore/pull/1283
>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/pulp/pulp_container/pull/304
>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/pulp/pulp_rpm/pull/1977
>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/pulp/pulp_ansible/pull/572
>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/pulp/pulp-2to3-migration/pull/362
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>> Fabricio Aguiar
>>>>>>>>>>> Software Engineer, Pulp Project
>>>>>>>>>>> Red Hat Brazil - Latam <https://www.redhat.com/>
>>>>>>>>>>> +55 22 999000595
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 5:35 PM Fabricio Aguiar <
>>>>>>>>>>> fagui...@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I created https branch:
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/pulp/pulp-oci-images/tree/https
>>>>>>>>>>>> and pushed the following images:
>>>>>>>>>>>> - pulp/pulp-ci-centos:https
>>>>>>>>>>>> - pulp/pulp:https
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Now we can test on the plugins,
>>>>>>>>>>>> I followed your suggestion and did it on pulp_npm:
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/pulp/pulp_npm/pull/89
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Fabricio Aguiar
>>>>>>>>>>>> Software Engineer, Pulp Project
>>>>>>>>>>>> Red Hat Brazil - Latam <https://www.redhat.com/>
>>>>>>>>>>>> +55 22 999000595
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 9:25 AM David Davis <
>>>>>>>>>>>> davidda...@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is great. Thank you for working on it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> As a next step, would it make sense to create a branch and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> then try to deploy a new temporary tag from that branch? Then 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> maybe we can
>>>>>>>>>>>>> test a plugin (eg pulp_npm) against this new image and see what 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> breaks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> David
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 5:01 PM Fabricio Aguiar <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> fagui...@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I started this POC:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/pulp/pulp-oci-images/pull/73
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It enables https on the single container, once merged, the CI
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for every plugin will run the functional tests using https.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Probably it would break the majority of the CIs, we need to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discuss when is the best moment to merge this PR or discuss 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> alternatives
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fabricio Aguiar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Software Engineer, Pulp Project
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Red Hat Brazil - Latam <https://www.redhat.com/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +55 22 999000595
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 10:55 AM Fabricio Aguiar <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fagui...@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Our nginx conf only supports http now:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/pulp/pulp-oci-images/blob/latest/assets/nginx.conf#L15
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For not breaking all plugins, I believe we can build a new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CI image that supports https.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe a template_config parameter - test_https: true would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> switch the images
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fabricio Aguiar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Software Engineer, Pulp Project
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Red Hat Brazil - Latam <https://www.redhat.com/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +55 22 999000595
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 5:16 AM Matthias Dellweg <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mdell...@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I believe this is at least solving the problem partially:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/pulp/pulp-smash/pull/1251
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 9:48 PM Brian Bouterse <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bmbou...@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I believe all of our plugins (and CI) require HTTP and do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not work with HTTPS. I'm not well versed in what needs to be 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> done to fix
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this, but I think we should fix it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can the CI group have a 30 min call to talk over what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> needs to be done? Or maybe share some info here?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The main issue I'm aware of is that the tests are not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prepared to trust an https certificate that is self-signed. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not exactly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sure where we can change that in one place either.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Brian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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