On 02/04/2013 03:44 PM, Tanu Kaskinen wrote:
On Mon, 2013-02-04 at 15:05 +0100, David Henningsson wrote:
On 02/04/2013 02:46 PM, Tanu Kaskinen wrote:
On Mon, 2013-02-04 at 10:43 +0100, David Henningsson wrote:
So; if port are merged with sinks/sources, I assume you would like this
merged object to be once per stream (i e different for a2dp and
hfp/hsp), which would again break the UI?

This looks like a problem with the approach of trying to merge ports and
sinks/sources.

I don't think merging ports with sinks/sources is the most relevant
question here. The question is how to simultaneously present a Bluetooth
headset as a single routing endpoint to the user and have means to
sufficiently distinguish between A2DP and HSP inside PulseAudio.

I haven't fully understood the problem with having merged ports for A2DP
and HSP - there are still different sources and sinks, so one could just
look at the current active sink if that's what you need to know.

I do understand that if something was modelled in one way, and then we
had to do an emergency fix because the model caused regressions in the
UI, the fixups become ugly as a result. What I don't know yet is why
multiple ports for A2DP and HSP would be a better model inside
PulseAudio from start?

I have proposed that we use the routing nodes of the policy work done by
Janos and Jaska to represent the headset as a single routing endpoint,
and associate multiple ports (A2DP and HSP) with that routing endpoint.
I would like to reach a consensus about this proposal. Is it ok for
everybody? David? Janos? Jaska? Please comment.

It is difficult to have an opinion without knowing more about the
routing framework and what a routing endpoint really is. But even if
this proposal gets implemented, still somebody needs to rewrite the UI
to use routing endpoints instead of ports - which should be an argument
against this proposal in the first place.

Mikel knows the details of the problem that he's working on right now,
I'll repeat an argument that I have stated earlier: sometimes the
Bluetooth setup is such that the HSP audio is routed through ALSA and
the A2DP audio is routed through BlueZ. Having a single port for the
headset is problematic in this scenario. I'd rather have a separate
"routing endpoint" concept for representing the headset. Do you prefer
merging ports even in this case?

If A2DP and HSP audio go through different sound cards, we have no possibility to merge them right now.

Not that I have ever seen such a setup. Can it happen on desktop/laptop computers you buy in the store, or only on highly specialised embedded environments (which are likely to have their own UI anyway)?


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