On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 7:12 PM, Markus Rechberger <mrechber...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Vadim Peretokin <vpereto...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Everyone has their viewpoint. >> Gaming in Ubuntu Karmic is quite an unpleasant experience due to the >> ALSA<->PA plugin making games die / have really stuttering sound. Nobody >> cares about it atm "until after the holidays", so I'm still waiting on that >> for a resolution... >> I have a USB headset, and no, the first time plugged in PA did nothing. I >> had to manually change the input and output streams to the USB headset to >> make my apps work. Worse than that, I'm not able to specify a default one - >> so for every new app, I have to set it to my headset. To make matters more >> fun, PA will reset (at some condition which I don't agree with and doesn't >> help my use case) to my onboard sound card. >> Oh and the new teamspeak 3 that just came out completely fails to work on >> ubuntu karmic. Just hogs all CPU and dies when you try to record any sound >> in it. >> But hey, on the bright side, recordmydesktop doesn't bork out with "someone >> is already using the sound card" problem. > > I think Pulseaudio is still far away from being ready to use on a desktop. > I like the idea behind Pulseaudio, but it should be optional and not > default right now. > Of course the developers want to see it installed everywhere, and it > even has some > advantages (it would be really good if it would work just like it was > announced to be years > ago). > The current status of Pulseaudio: > * It has nice features > * It still has more bugs than Alsa has > * It limits the basic audio capabilities > * A very big problem for older distributions it is extremely unstable > (the unstableness is fixed nowadays but this is a real problem for > applications which are supposed with older distributions too) > > If PA wants to continue like this it should have an easier update > mechanism, and try to make the update mechanism more independent from > the distributions. I'm fine if Colin and Lennard still want to push it > as long as they take care about it, if you can't handle it please > don't tell people to use it by default (personally my final resolution > for all issues was to remove pulseaudio, I think this is what noone > really wants, especially since you put alot work into it). > If someone complains about a bug why don't you provide a feature like > pulseaudio-update to switch to the latest pulseaudio version (the only > ones who regulary have the latest versions are you guys - not the > people who manage the distributions). > > The current situation is not good, and something should be done. >
Just to add our strategy right now, we try to use pulseaudio at the beginning (but expect that pulseaudio crashes after at least 30 minutes with older distributions). After that we just kill it until it is gone and fall back to alsa (we do check the returnvalues of PA tooo) This works with older (eg. Ubuntu distributions). But I don't think an audio system should act like this or should ever have a behavior like this, not even with old systems. - This issue is solved now with a new PA version but it's still unresolved for people with older PA versions - and there are still quite some people out there who use older Ubuntu versions. Markus _______________________________________________ pulseaudio-discuss mailing list pulseaudio-discuss@mail.0pointer.de https://tango.0pointer.de/mailman/listinfo/pulseaudio-discuss
