Jira (PUP-1125) Exec checks should be turned into metaparameters

[John Bollinger (JIRA)]

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John Bollinger commented on an issue   Re: Exec checks should be turned into metaparameters Arguments beginning with a definition of what puppet is are not very constructive. Not only does that target move, but your operational model is not mine (hint: it only exists in your mind). Asserting some local notion of forward-looking purity of that vision just asks that we worship your ideal. Unless you have commit rights or otherwise speak for PL as a whole, I'm not on for that ride. Realize that this tool's workplace is often nasty, fiddly, and loaded with inconsistency (you know, like the whole rest of this world). That is nothing new. You won't have a sparkling clean feature set free from ugly beasts and burdens foisted from deep down in POSIX, et al. Theoretical correctness is a luxury and only maybe warrants a mention in passing, just as a reminder. Maybe we can get back to the question at hand now? It depends – are you feeling better now? If indeed the question that you want to discuss is the subject of this feature request, then one constructive way to proceed would be to give examples of how you could use the feature to make life better for you. Some of us call those "use cases". They will help those who ultimately will decide the matter to determine whether to indeed implement the requested feature, or an alternative, or nothing at all, and if a new feature is implemented then the use cases will help guide its design. (my 2 cents...) Felix Frank outlined the three needs well enough to proceed. But the change is maybe large, so I can only echo the suggestion to have it work just as the exec metaparam. On the contrary, Felix outlined three mutually exclusive implementation alternatives, to which some of this discussion has been directed. It remains an open question which would be best, but it is by no means clear that the requested feature would be the best way to serve the perceived need in the first place (since the nature of the need itself is not clear). That is the threshold question, and I will not allow it to be swept under the rug if I can help it. Add Comment   Puppet / PUP-1125 Exec checks should be turned into metaparameters The 'checks' in Exec -- refreshonly, onlyif and unless -- should be changed into metaparameters, so they're available for all resource types. My guess is that this will require defining a new type of metaparameter, in the same way that the Exec checks are a slightly different type of parameter. This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v6.1.4#6159-sha1:44eaede) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Bugs" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-bugs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to puppet-bugs@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-bugs. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.