On May 17, 2010, at 8:10 PM, Nigel Kersten wrote:
On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 5:34 PM, Luke Kanies <[email protected]>
wrote:
Hi all,
I'm working two Environment tickets:
http://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/3517
http://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/2834
I was reminded that I made the decision not to require site.pp any
more - if you're using an external node classifier and modules, then
this file would often end up empty, so it makes no sense to require
it.
However, I just realized an annoying repercussion of this fact: We
now can't easily tell if an environment is real or fat-fingered.
At least, this is true if you're using node constructs -- if you're
using an external node classifier, I assume it would refer to
classes which Puppet wouldn't be able to look up because the module
path wouldn't resolve correctly.
Normally you'd require that site.pp exist, and then it would have
node information that resulted in classes being looked up in the
module path, etc.
So, the question becomes, is this a bug? I assume so, but I don't
know how to fix it. What defines whether an environment exists?
We used to require environments be strictly listed, but we stopped
that at the request of the community.
Not really though? We did have a list of them as well as a list of
environment definitions, now we just have a list of environment
definitions. Isn't that our authoritative info on whether an
environment exists or not? What is an environment if you haven't
defined *something* in a [environment_name] block in the server
config file?
None of this stuff is really modeled in Puppet right now, though - you
can ask the Settings instance for an environment-specific setting, but
you can't actually ask it what the defined environments are.
We'd have to add that "does an environment exist?" modeling to
Settings, which would get a bit confusing because executables and
environments can both have sections in puppet.conf.
--
I cannot and will not cut my conscience to fit this year's fashions.
-- Lillian Hellman
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