On Jun 7, 2010, at 7:43 AM, Markus Roberts wrote:
David --
> That's the internal/implementation side of it. Please see below
for explainations about the frills
> I added for the more "user"/developer oriented spec in my mail.
I saw it, I'm just not sold on it (yet). The internal side, as you
call it, looks pretty clean and high payoff; the additions are
(IMHO) lower payoff and more problematic. I'm not saying that I
couldn't be convinced, but I (and I'd thought we) had stopped where
we did for exactly that reason.
> We didn't talk about it. But how would puppet reference the
following resources in a log message?
By their titles. And for this reason users shouldn't give resources
titles that they won't be able to subsequently recognize, just as now.
This is basically where I'd planned on taking this - either lose the
requirement that titles be unique (e.g., dependencies are lazy binding
anyway, so you could just depend on all things that have that title),
or don't care about unique titles unless there's a relationship
involved. I prefer the former. Titles are for humans anyway, so they
have complete control over how it works.
Also the question arose around Trevor's mail how storedconfig's
resources.title is filled. Which, like the log message, is more of a
usability thing than anything else, because the user would expect a
"well-formed" title, that corresponds to the specified parameters,
independently of how they are specified.
Ditto with storeconfigs; I'd say use the title, as now. The idea is
very simple when it's unidirectional and very complicated (or
perhaps "simple but full of edge cases") when you try to make it bi-
directional.
BTW, I'll be back in the office as of today & will kick this around
with Jesse, who may convince me one way or the other, and I'll be
trying to get the patches I promised you by the end of this coming
week out ASAP .
--
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but
never hit soft! -- Theodore Roosevelt
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