On Tue, 2010-09-14 at 13:57 -0700, Markus Roberts wrote: > Funny story: as the number of developers working on Puppet and related > projects at PuppetLabs has increased, the average distance between > them has dropped geometrically*, to the point that if we want to > discuss something we're working on with someone, we can (in many cases > literally) reach out and tap a fellow developer on the shoulder. This > is great for us but it has had an unfortunate unintended consequence: > we've been doing more and more face-to-face discussions and less and > less on this list. > > Oops. > > This wasn't intentional and (though it seems blindingly obvious in > hindsight) wasn't expected either. It was, as one five year old put > it, a blundersight. > > So we're going to try something we hope will fix things; office chat > is still going to go on as normal -- we'll spare you our debates about > whether we should try having lunch at the place with the cult videos > on all the TVs again or who's going to show the new developer the > ropes -- but if anyone starts to have a substantive discussion about > Puppet & friends we'll cut them off and tell them to tell it to the > list. > > That means that when we're kicking around ideas you'll get to see them > and put in your two cents worth on equal footing with the developers > in the office (since we really do want your input). It also means > that you'll get to see some ideas that never go anywhere, and crazy > things that are (mercifully) shot down in their first few hours. But > then you'll also get to see the direction of our thinking long before > some of it results in a line of code, and help us shape it before > anything is settled. > > Hopefully, it'll be just like the old days.
That's a good move, one that I more than welcome. I understand that some discussions needs the privacy of your offices (strategic ones), but I think starting discussions on this list has many advantages (and in the end the final decision is still on your side): * openness * sparkling other related ideas * cooperation between PL and the community One thing that I noticed is important is sharing some knowledge. It already happened when testing that I find a bug that in fact your team already fixed, but that I either missed or wasn't pushed. I hate duplicated efforts :) I hope this will work, and as usual I'd be more than happy to help by producing code (based on this month and next one spare time, I doubt something will come soon :)) or sharing discussions. Thanks for this move, -- Brice Figureau Follow the latest Puppet Community evolutions on www.planetpuppet.org! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Developers" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-dev?hl=en.
