Sorry for the vagueness. I was referring to Geppetto, the Vim plugin, etc...
Random parenthesis are something that I think will be often overlooked
without some help.
Thanks,
Trevor
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 7:16 PM, Henrik Lindberg <
henrik.lindb...@cloudsmith.com> wrote:
> On 2014-05-08 1:08, Trevor Vaughan wrote:
>
>> This is certainly better than the new operator but the parenthesis are a
>> bit strange.
>>
>> Isn't the title 'default' special enough to not have the parenthesis?
>>
>> The functionality is not limited to the default title, and a literal
> default is not a special expression so the grammar has no special
> knowledge. It is basically:
>
> Body : expression ':' attribute_operations ... ;
>
> i.e. you can use it for a titled resource as well:
>
> file { '/tmp/foo': ($hash) }
>
>
>
> If not, then I can certainly live with the parenthesis syntax better
>> than a new operator (though support in the syntax checkers will be most
>> useful).
>>
>>
> You mean in puppet parser validate? Or where? (You should get static
> validation of this - it cannot validate that the expression will evaluate
> to a valid hash though, that is not known until you actually run the code).
> But maybe you meant something else?
>
> Regards
> - henrik
>
> Thanks,
>>
>> Trevor
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 6:18 PM, Henrik Lindberg
>> <henrik.lindb...@cloudsmith.com <mailto:henrik.lindb...@cloudsmith.com>>
>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> On 2014-04-08 20:35, Trevor Vaughan wrote:
>>
>> So, I'm chiming in to say that I completely agree with Reid and
>> Ashley.
>>
>> As an end user, I want to hand off code that is clear and
>> relatively
>> easy to read. I definitely do not want magic symbols (or I would
>> have
>> stuck with PERL).
>>
>> I'm OK with all of the concepts proposed but I would like more
>> verbosity
>> and clarity as opposed to more 'elegance' and mystery.
>>
>>
>> So, to summarize: The use of * => as an operator is not liked but
>> the concept of being able to set attributes from a hash is.
>> Unfortunately, it is not possible to directly allow an expression at
>> the position in question, there must be a syntactical marker.
>>
>> As pointed out earlier, the * => was thought to read as
>> "any_attribute => from_these_values", but I totally grok if people
>> have an allergic reaction.
>>
>> We can do this though:
>>
>> file { default: ($hash) }
>>
>> This works because it is impossible to have an attribute name in
>> parentheses.
>>
>> In use:
>>
>> file (
>> default : ($my_file_defaults + { mode => '0666' });
>> '/tmp/foo': ;
>> '/tmp/bar': ;
>> }
>>
>> Is that better? No new operator, but you have to use parentheses
>> around the expression.
>>
>> We can naturally also revert the functionality, but it seems it is
>> liked conceptually.
>>
>>
>> - henrik
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