On 11/03/2014 11:21 PM, Craig White wrote:
> I believe the ENC already has access to the node's stored value and
> would display that after assignment if assigned.

I'm not so sure. The classes that are included from a node should be
available, but I don't think that each last parameter value is being
saved somewhere. That's just my gut feeling, though.

> I didn't consider 'cost' but it would seem that loading 'params.pp'
> values is not a large cost in terms of server but perhaps just in
> programming.

Yes, the implementation would be complex. But in terms of computation,
this *would* be expensive. To make sure that all values can be resolved,
the entire manifest for the node in question will need parsing. It might
be as simple as looking up a line from the body of the params class in
many cases, but that would be a very limited algorithm that cannot work
for all cases.

> I am just gathering that the primary thinking is that if you don't
> know the values you want to use to override, then don't override.

Sorry - I don't follow.

> Myself, I am trying not to longhand some of the variables and am
> choosing to use ns1 rather than nameserver1

Still not following.

> On Monday, November 3, 2014 3:03:51 PM UTC-7, Felix.Frank wrote:
>
>     Hi,
>
>     sounds like a complex problem.
>
>     Here's a simple counter case that shows why I don't think that any
>     ENC
>     out there does this.
>
>     class resolv::params {
>         if $ipaddress =~ /^192/ {
>             $ns1 = '192.168.0.1'
>         }
>         else {
>             $ns1 = '8.8.8.8'
>         }
>     }
>
>     The raison d'etre (as far as I know it - never used this pattern
>     myself)
>     for params classes is their ability to centrally define defaults that
>     are derived from fact values. The ENC would have to interpret the
>     manifest for the params class in question, using the node's stored
>     data
>     as the basis.
>
>     Doing this on the fly does not sound feasible to me - this is
>     quite an
>     expensive operation. So the ENC would have to maintain some kind of
>     cache for all those values. This, in turn, sounds like a lot of work.
>     The it probably would be a cool feature to add to the ENC of your
>     choice :-)
>
>     Cheers,
>     Felix
>
>     On 10/14/2014 11:17 PM, Craig White wrote:
>     > I am trying to figure out if parameterized variables can be
>     displayed
>     > when hovering over the appropriate section in an ENC. At the
>     moment, I
>     > am playing with PE 3.3 with it's console/dashboard and my previous
>     > experience was with puppet 2.6.x and Foreman.
>     >
>     > Simplified example, module resolv
>     >
>     > # resolv/manifests/init.pp
>     > class resolv (
>     >   $ns1 = $resolv::params::ns1,
>     >   ) inherits resolv::params {
>     >   include resolv::config
>     > }
>     >
>     > # resolv/manifests/params.pp
>     > class resolv::params {
>     >   $ns1 = '192.168.0.1'
>     > }
>     >
>     > So when I am editing a node and adding an override in the puppet
>     > dashboard (ENC), I hover over the box $ns1 where I can override the
>     > value and it shows me what I will get if I don't override, which is
>     > 'default: $ns1::params::ns1' which is absolutely meaningless at
>     that
>     > point and I was hoping it would show the assignment from params.pp
>     >
>     > Is this just something I can't fix or am I misunderstanding how
>     to use
>     > parameterized variables?
>     >
>     > Craig 
>

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