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https://www.reddit.com/r/zfs/comments/1826lgs/psa_its_not_block_cloning_its_a_data_corruption/
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found this one in meantime, no idea what's the current state of affairs in
proxmox ...
JV
> On 23. 11. 2023, at 23:35, Jan Vlach <ja...@volny.cz> wrote:
>
> Hello Martin,
>
> I'm sorry for stupid question, but I don't quite follow what the OpenZFS
> 2.2.0 with "the most important bugfixes from 2.2.1" means.
>
> there is issue 15526 (https://github.com/openzfs/zfs/issues/15526
> <https://github.com/openzfs/zfs/issues/15526>) in openzfs that enables block
> cloning feature by default and that on linux "eats" data.
>
> OpenZFS 2.2.1 specifically switches the block cloning on by default to off by
> default and nothing else. (
> https://github.com/openzfs/zfs/commit/479dca51c66a731e637bd2d4f9bba01a05f9ac9f
>
> <https://github.com/openzfs/zfs/commit/479dca51c66a731e637bd2d4f9bba01a05f9ac9f>
> )
>
> So is the code at 2.2.0 (toxic) eating data by default or at 2.2.1 where
> block cloning is disabled by default and therefore safe?
>
> Thank you for clarification,
> JV
>
>> On 23. 11. 2023, at 15:27, Martin Maurer <mar...@proxmox.com
>> <mailto:mar...@proxmox.com>> wrote:
>>
>> We're very excited to announce the release 8.1 of Proxmox Virtual
>> Environment! It's based on Debian 12.2 "Bookworm" but uses a newer Linux
>> kernel 6.5, QEMU 8.1.2, and OpenZFS 2.2.0 ((with stable fixes backported)
>>
>> Here is a selection of the highlights of Proxmox VE 8.1
>>
>> - Debian 12.2 (“Bookworm”), but uses a newer Linux kernel 6.5 as stable
>> default
>> - latest versions of QEMU 8.1.2 and ZFS 2.2.0 including the most important
>> bugfixes from 2.2.1 already
>> - Software-defined Networking (SDN)
>> - Secure Boot
>> - New flexible notification system with matcher-based approach
>> - Ceph Server: Ceph Reef 18.2.0 is default, and Ceph Quincy 17.2.7 comes
>> with continued support.
>> -Countless GUI and API improvements.
>>
>> As always, we have included countless bugfixes and improvements on many
>> places; see the release notes for all details.
>>
>> Release notes
>> https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Roadmap <https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Roadmap>
>>
>> Press release
>> https://www.proxmox.com/en/news/press-releases/
>>
>> Video tutorial
>> https://www.proxmox.com/en/training/video-tutorials/item/what-s-new-in-proxmox-ve-8-1
>>
>> Download
>> https://www.proxmox.com/en/downloads
>> Alternate ISO download:
>> https://enterprise.proxmox.com/iso
>>
>> Documentation
>> https://pve.proxmox.com/pve-docs
>>
>> Community Forum
>> https://forum.proxmox.com
>>
>> Bugtracker
>> https://bugzilla.proxmox.com
>>
>> Source code
>> https://git.proxmox.com
>>
>> There has been a lot of feedback from our community members and customers,
>> and many of you reported bugs, submitted patches and were involved in
>> testing - THANK YOU for your support!
>>
>> FAQ
>>
>> Q: Can I upgrade latest Proxmox VE 7 to 8 with apt?
>> A: Yes, please follow the upgrade instructions on
>> https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Upgrade_from_7_to_8
>>
>> Q: Can I upgrade an 8.0 installation to the stable 8.1 via apt?
>> A: Yes, upgrading from is possible via apt and GUI.
>>
>> Q: Can I install Proxmox VE 8.1 on top of Debian 12 "Bookworm"?
>> A: Yes, see
>> https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Install_Proxmox_VE_on_Debian_12_Bookworm
>>
>> Q: Can I upgrade my Proxmox VE 7.4 cluster with Ceph Pacific to Proxmox VE
>> 8.1 and to Ceph Reef?
>> A: This is a three-step process. First, you have to upgrade Ceph from
>> Pacific to Quincy, and afterwards you can then upgrade Proxmox VE from 7.4
>> to 8.1. As soon as you run Proxmox VE 8.1, you can upgrade Ceph to Reef.
>> There are a lot of improvements and changes, so please follow exactly the
>> upgrade documentation:
>> https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Ceph_Pacific_to_Quincy
>> https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Upgrade_from_7_to_8
>> https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Ceph_Quincy_to_Reef
>>
>> Q: Where can I get more information about feature updates?
>> A: Check the roadmap, forum, the mailing list, and/or subscribe to our
>> newsletter.
>>
>> --
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Martin Maurer
>> Proxmox VE project leader
>>
>>
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