wo this is great to hear, thanks !

Am 10.07.20 um 16:15 schrieb Thomas Lamprecht:
On 10.07.20 16:06, Roland wrote:
i think there may be a misunderstanding here or i was not clear enough
to express what i meant.

i guess in terms of backup storage,  pbs is doing similar to what
borgbackup does - so indeed that IS i/o and storage effient , but that
refers to the backup target side.

but what about the backup source?

I was referring to VMware cbt as that is a means of avoiding I/O on the
VM storage, i.e. the backup source.

afaik, proxmox/kvm does not (yet) have something like that !?
Proxmox Backup Server and Proxmox VE supports tracking what changed with
dirty-bitmaps, this avoids reading anything from the storage and sending
anything over the network that has not changed.

I you have lot's of terabytes of VM disks, each incremental backup run
will hog the VMs storage (the same like full backup).

In VMware, this is adressed with "changed block tracking", as a backup
agent can determine which blocks of a VMs disks have changed between
incremental backups, so it won't need to scan through the whole VMs
disks on each differential/incremental backup run.
see above, we effectively support both - deduplication to reduce target
storage impact and incremental backups to reduce source storage and
network impact.

https://pbs.proxmox.com/docs/introduction.html#main-features

see:
https://kb.vmware.com/s/article/1020128
https://helpcenter.veeam.com/docs/backup/vsphere/changed_block_tracking.html?ver=100

i don't want to criticize proxmox, i think proxmox is fantastic, i just
want to know what we get ( and what we don't get).

No worries, no offense taken ;)

cheers,
Thomas



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