Hello,

this is probably a bit difficult to understand at first, but I will try to explain.

Each backup is a full backup, even though only the differences to the last backup are actually backed up. The remaining unchanged block are just being referenced from the last backup. When you delete a previous backup, only those blocks which are not referenced by another backup will actually be deleted.

So each backup is independent on its own, and you can delete all previous backups without losing any data.

Hope this clears it up a bit.

Bye,
Andreas

Am 02.03.2021 um 11:22 schrieb mj:
Hi,

Testing PBS backups taken from PVE VMs on ceph rbd now. Very nice, very quick, very cool. :-)

We have a question. Something we wonder about.

In our current backup software, we make weekly full_system backups, and daily incremental_system backups, each incremental based on the same full_system backup. So: each daily incremental backup becomes bigger, until the weekend. Then we make a new full_system backup to base the next set of incrementals on.

In PBS I cannot specify if a backup is full or incremental, we assume this means that automatically the first backup is a full_system backup, and subsequent backups are incremental. The PBS backup logs confirm this assumption, saying: "scsi0: dirty-bitmap status: created new" vs "scsi0: dirty-bitmap status: OK (7.3 GiB of 501.0 GiB dirty)"

And now the question: At what point in time is a new full_system backup created, to rebase incremental backups on? Or is each incremental backup based on the previous incremental? And if that is the case, how will we ever be able to delete one of the in-between incrementals, because that would then break to whole chain of incremental_backup-based-on-incremental_backup...?

We have read the page https://qemu.readthedocs.io/en/latest/interop/bitmaps.html but it does not seem to answer this.

Anyone care to share some insight on this logic and how PBS works?

MJ



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