Hi Walt,

I'm curious about this too. The only input parameter of note in the batch_create request is the FSID, so there isn't much to work with in terms of permission checking...

Nick, are you developing some mechanism to differentiate servers from clients? Or is there some sort of special "I'm a server" credential that would allow these operations to proceed?

Is your goal to eliminate clients creating datafiles on their own entirely, or to simply limit the rate at which a malicious client could consume resources? If the latter, you could simply place an upper limit on the number of objects that a non-server client could create in one request (assuming you have a way to differentiate)...

Thanks,

Rob

On Jun 24, 2009, at 4:18 PM, Walter Ligon wrote:

Nick, how are you planning to handle the bulk-create in the first place? Clearly we don't want to require a distinct capability for each object being requested, so I assume the requesting server will provide a capability with the number of objects IN the capability so its signed.

Then it could be passed safely to the user.

Walt

Nicholas Mills wrote:
When I say new create code I'm referring to the changes to the server's create.sm <http://create.sm> and the corresponding changes to the client's sys-create.sm <http://sys-create.sm> since 2.7.1 (almost all of the changes come from the small file branch). It used to be that both sys-symlink and sys-create used the server "create" request to create their objects. But now that create only makes regular files the sys-symlink code has been modified to use batch-create with a size of one. This approach works, but it seems to me to be a misuse of an operation designed for the creation of multiple handles between /servers/. As you know, David and I are working on eliminating the security holes present in the current version of PVFS. I would really rather not give client code the ability to create up to 8192 handles (source: pvfs2-req-proto.h) with a single request. Is there any obstacle to moving the symlink creation code to the server side in the same way that regular file creation was moved to the server side? I realize it would involve adding yet another request (and state machine), but I believe in the interest of security that regular clients should not have access to the functionality provided by batch-create.
Thanks for your response,
Nick
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Sam Lang <sl...@mcs.anl.gov <mailto:sl...@mcs.anl.gov >> wrote:
   On Jun 24, 2009, at 9:22 AM, Nicholas Mills wrote:
   Hey all,

   Can someone quickly explain to me why sys-symlink.sm
<http://sys-symlink.sm> (in the client code) now uses batch create
   with a fixed size of one? What prevents us from using the new
   create code? This change was merged in by phil with the small
   files branch.
What "new create code" do you refer to? The batch create code is the new create path.
   -sam

   Thanks,

   Nick
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