Daniel : it works :-)

With 20050726 tarball, I have no more encoding problems :-D  Thx you

On 25/07/05, Daniel Henninger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Folk,
> >>
> >> I finally was able to relax and get some work done on PyICQ, so I
> >> applied
> >> a wealth of patches and misc other modifications.  They are in SVN now,
> >> or
> >> you can also grab the latest tarball from
> >> http://www.vorpalcloud.org/tarballs/.  These include but are not limited
> >> to rate limiter fixes, encoding fixes, and offline message fixes (both
> >> outgoing and incoming).  Many thanks to all of those who submitted
> >> patches!  Please test the code if you have a chance.  I'm actually
> >> concerned that part of it may not work with Twisted 2 very well.  (there
> >> was a domish.py modification and I haven't checked if Twisted 2 will
> >> behave the same way)  Important things to test are vcard lookups and
> >> messages from folk with non-english characters.
> >
> > Does this mean that the issue with character encodings is supposed to be
> > solved? Anyhow, I will install and run the latest tarball as soon as
> > possible, not tonight, tired and let U know how it behaves.
> 
> I honestly don't know.  I've never been good at finding ways to test the
> encoding problems, so I rely on those of you who use the encoding to test.
>  =)  The patches submitted look like they should work wonders, so my gut
> feeling is that they solve a lot of or all of the encoding problems.
> Anyway, the more people that can test it the better!!!
> 
> Daniel
> 
> 
> >
> >>
> >> Daniel
> >>
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From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Wed Jul 27 09:12:04 2005
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sander Devrieze)
Date: Wed Jul 27 09:12:27 2005
Subject: [py-transports] Idea: combining Python-based Jabber transports
        into one project
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Op woensdag 27 juli 2005 02:06, schreef Trejkaz:
> Quoting Daniel Henninger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > I'm afraid I'm not.  I loath merged projects like that.  Sorry to be a
> > party pooper.
>
> I don't think we need merging, really.  We just need the common things to
> move into a project where they can be improved in one place, rather than
> all three projects veering off into their own directions.
>
> Maybe Twisted already has enough re-use... but when I hear things like
> internationalisation being fixed separately on each transport, I can't
> help but
> think that these projects are wasting a lot of time fixing the same problem
> multiple times.

Yes, it shouldn't be a full merging as I noted. I think merging the 
communities will be already a good thing. E.g. what about merging the lang.py 
files of PyMSNt, PyAIM-t and PyICQ-t into one file and automatically copying 
this file to all projects? In this way translators need to translate only one 
file. Even these small things already can improve things. Another thing that 
can be done is that the xmpppy transports can use this mailing list as their 
official list. Or a common bugzilla with all transports in it (see original 
message for more *examples*).

-- 
Mvg, Sander Devrieze.

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From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Wed Jul 27 09:29:31 2005
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lionel Dricot (aka Ploum))
Date: Wed Jul 27 09:29:35 2005
Subject: [py-transports] Idea: combining Python-based Jabber transports
        into one project
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I just discovered today that there is a python based yahoo transport !
I would be cool to merge all those things in one tar.gz file with a
bash or python script to admin all those gateways. (I've written a
bash script myself to do this http://ploum.fritalk.com/jab_transport ,
and I don't think I'm the only one)



On 27/07/05, Sander Devrieze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Op woensdag 27 juli 2005 02:06, schreef Trejkaz:
> > Quoting Daniel Henninger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > I'm afraid I'm not.  I loath merged projects like that.  Sorry to be a
> > > party pooper.
> >
> > I don't think we need merging, really.  We just need the common things to
> > move into a project where they can be improved in one place, rather than
> > all three projects veering off into their own directions.
> >
> > Maybe Twisted already has enough re-use... but when I hear things like
> > internationalisation being fixed separately on each transport, I can't
> > help but
> > think that these projects are wasting a lot of time fixing the same problem
> > multiple times.
> 
> Yes, it shouldn't be a full merging as I noted. I think merging the
> communities will be already a good thing. E.g. what about merging the lang.py
> files of PyMSNt, PyAIM-t and PyICQ-t into one file and automatically copying
> this file to all projects? In this way translators need to translate only one
> file. Even these small things already can improve things. Another thing that
> can be done is that the xmpppy transports can use this mailing list as their
> official list. Or a common bugzilla with all transports in it (see original
> message for more *examples*).
> 
> --
> Mvg, Sander Devrieze.
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From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Wed Jul 27 11:57:01 2005
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Daniel Henninger)
Date: Wed Jul 27 11:56:58 2005
Subject: [py-transports] Idea: combining Python-based Jabber transports 
        into one project
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> Op woensdag 27 juli 2005 02:06, schreef Trejkaz:
>> Quoting Daniel Henninger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> > I'm afraid I'm not.  I loath merged projects like that.  Sorry to be a
>> > party pooper.
>>
>> I don't think we need merging, really.  We just need the common things
>> to
>> move into a project where they can be improved in one place, rather than
>> all three projects veering off into their own directions.
>>
>> Maybe Twisted already has enough re-use... but when I hear things like
>> internationalisation being fixed separately on each transport, I can't
>> help but
>> think that these projects are wasting a lot of time fixing the same
>> problem
>> multiple times.
>
> Yes, it shouldn't be a full merging as I noted. I think merging the
> communities will be already a good thing. E.g. what about merging the
> lang.py
> files of PyMSNt, PyAIM-t and PyICQ-t into one file and automatically
> copying
> this file to all projects? In this way translators need to translate only
> one
> file. Even these small things already can improve things. Another thing

One problem with that is, our lang.py's aren't the same.  There are
messages that AIM and ICQ have that MSN does not.  (and there will be
more)  So at that point we might end up having a lot of "hey, translator,
I'm really sorry, but you only translated the common stuff, can you
translate the transport specific stuff too?"


> that
> can be done is that the xmpppy transports can use this mailing list as
> their
> official list. Or a common bugzilla with all transports in it (see

They are welcome to, but I'm certainly not going to force the issue.  I'm
more than happy to invite them though.  But who's to say they're not going
to wonder why we don't all move over to their lists or something of that
nature?  Not really looking to start an argument.  =)



> original
> message for more *examples*).

I loath bugzilla as well.  I actually wrote my own bug tracker because I
was annoyed with all of the other ones I'd worked with.  It's got a little
bit of work that needs to be done to it still, but I'm quite happy with my
blathersource site and have no intentions of pulling away from it.

Daniel

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