On Tue, 2005-11-15 at 13:31 -0500, Daniel Henninger wrote:
> You know, the user who asked about this probably isn't seeing this  
> conversation, I'm not sure he's subscribed to the list.  ;D  Let me  
> send him an invite.

CUT

> 
> Hrm.  I remember there being a problem with that in the past. 

Oh, well, I did not report this, mainly due to the fact that I could
find nothing wrong with PyICQ. The fact that there was nothing in the
logs when I am sure a message was sent to me is quite troublesome.

>  I also don't think "direct connect" works, but then it shouldn't accept a  
> direct connection since it doesn't advertise support for that and ...  
> well flat out doesn't support it. 

>  There was a problem with old ICQ clients that 
> said messages on a different channel. 

Different channel?

>  I'd like to be  
> able to see some logs from when such an event occurs.  (can't  
> communicate from a particular icq client)  

> There's also a slight chance that I've fixed this already in the latest SVN.

I run the latest SVN, I could test it, but I have to get some ICQ users
organized, and most people seem to switch to MSN (sorry bout the
curse ;p) If there is something specific you want me to do please tell
me.

CUT

> I should hope that ICQ pays attention to it's own protocol and  
> doesn't try a direct connect (p2p) without PyICQ advertising that it  
> supports that.  =D  If it does, then that's power lame!
> 

Indeed, and it should time out and the sender should get an error and
the question to send by sever (this was how it worked /back then/
anyway).

Anyway, this has happened with both Ejabberd and Jabberd2, and different
versions of PyICQ-t.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Oscar =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Hellstr=F6m?=)
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Maybee you could look at helping Daniel with PyICQ?
There are still some interesting encoding issues to deal with afaik.

On Tue, 2005-11-15 at 04:02 +0200, yanis wrote:
> ok :) I just wanted to get involved to practice my python knowledge :P
> 
> 
> On Tue, 2005-11-15 at 11:02 +1100, James Bunton wrote:
> > Thanks for the offer.
> > I'll certainly be able to use testers in a little while.
> > 
> > The reason I haven't progressed in the last 2 weeks is because I've had 
> > exams for Uni.
> > They finish on Thursday, so after that expect to see it all come 
> > together :)
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On Tue, 2005-11-15 at 23:21 +0100, Oscar Hellstr?m wrote:

> >  I'd like to be  
> > able to see some logs from when such an event occurs.  (can't  
> > communicate from a particular icq client)  

Oh, forgot this.
There was nothing in the logs. PyICQ-t did not react on anything when
the message was supposed to be received. And when the client switch was
made it worked as intended...

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As a last restort it's always possible to include twisted in the source
tree. That might solve all distribution related problems, right?

And either way, /which/ other app uses Twisted Words anyway :P

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From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Wed Nov 16 08:59:40 2005
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (-: Dave :-)
Date: Wed Nov 16 08:59:45 2005
Subject: [py-transports] loosing icq messages
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hi folks!

first of all: thanks for the information about the talk here and the 
list invite.

short: i have this bug, its 100% reproduceble, i am not a unix beginner 
and i have full access to all involved systems - so lets trace it down 
and fix it! (would be the very best solution for me too!)

only, it can take some days ...

what you could do, is inform me about what i can do - to get all needed 
debug data in one single debugging session.
i will start the daemon in debug mode with loggin to a file - no problem ...
a tcpdump can also be done (you want the traffic on localhost between 
transport and ejabberd, right?)
anything else ?

what i find VERY strange, is the fact, that i had installed ejabberd 
with aim-transport, when first encoutering the problem. that was the 
reason, why i changed to pyicq - i thought: new transport will fix the 
problem - but it stayed! so i guess, its not only the transport ...

rant: think of all the ppl, using pyicqt, and not receiving SOME 
messages - without noticing event, that there were messages!
gentleman, we have condition red ;)

regards
dave
From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Wed Nov 16 09:18:56 2005
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (-: Dave :-)
Date: Wed Nov 16 09:18:48 2005
Subject: [py-transports] loosing icq messages
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what just came to my mind:
you said, you need icq test users ...

i could give you the icq id of my friend, and somehow manage it, that he 
sends you something over your (surely fully debugging) servers at a 
specifiy time - so you can trace it yourself .... i would guess, if i 
have the problems, you will have them too ...

perhaps we shouldnt coordinate this on the mailing list :) you can 
contact me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

regards
dave
From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Wed Nov 16 12:33:31 2005
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Daniel Henninger)
Date: Wed Nov 16 12:33:38 2005
Subject: [py-transports] loosing icq messages
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I'm actually running version 0.6 of PyICQ with an ejabberd server and  
I've never run into problems.  =(  So I'm not sure that I'd be able  
to duplicate the problem on my end.  My gut feeling is that there's  
something not configured happily in ejabberd.  Maybe we should  
discuss this 'live'.  Is [EMAIL PROTECTED] your jabber id or an email  
address?

My JID is [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Daniel

On Nov 16, 2005, at 4:18 AM, (-: Dave :-) wrote:

> what just came to my mind:
> you said, you need icq test users ...
>
> i could give you the icq id of my friend, and somehow manage it,  
> that he sends you something over your (surely fully debugging)  
> servers at a specifiy time - so you can trace it yourself .... i  
> would guess, if i have the problems, you will have them too ...
>
> perhaps we shouldnt coordinate this on the mailing list :) you can  
> contact me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> regards
> dave
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