On 8/19/06, Derek Kuli?ski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yeah, I really wish all of those networks would just die, and Jabber > became standard like e-mail is right now :)))
"""Microsoft Titanic, Meet Mr Open Source Iceberg""" (http://linux.sys-con.com/read/46473.htm) I believe that _just_ like e-mail was segmented in the early days, and has grown to become interoperable to survive, IM will have to go the same way. If you haven't read 1,2,3,4 -- I Declare IM War (http://www.drunkenblog.com/drunkenblog-archives/000637.html) you should. Also if people like Lotus are adding XMPP support into their IM platform (http://www.computerworld.com.au/index.php/id;289729769;fp;4;fpid;1398720840) I'd be pretty sure that the others will sit up and take notice, but only when the product launches. There's also the 'somewhere-in-the-pipeline' gtalk speaking to aim deal. As far as I'm concerned this requires zero work from google, and all the work from the aim/icq guys. ('Just' implement a xmpp server on aim.com for all aim and icq addresses). Once this is complete we really will have jabber/gtalk/aim/icq on one side, and msn/yahoo on the other. I'm willing to bet that yahoo will have xmpp integration before msn do. Timelines? Who knows, hopefully sooner rather than later. P.S. Any thoughts on when POP3/IMAP/SMTP will be replaced by XMPP? What about IRC? -- - Norman Rasmussen - Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Home page: http://norman.rasmussen.co.za/ From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Aug 19 21:48:40 2006 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Johnson) Date: Sat Aug 19 21:50:28 2006 Subject: [py-transports] Jabber transparent to MSN and parameter questions In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Saturday 19 August 2006 12:24, Derek Kuli?ski wrote: > Hello Paul, > > Saturday, August 19, 2006, 12:16:23 PM, you wrote: > >> Thank you. That may not make use of my jabber system but it will at > >> least simplify things. I didn't know that was an option on MSN these > >> days. Furthermore, it will be nice to put the word "Jabber" in a > >> microsoft system! > > > > Why not just let Jabber obsolete another Microsoft system instead? > > Yeah, I really wish all of those networks would just die, and Jabber > became standard like e-mail is right now :))) It won't unless people stop using the commercial alternatives. :o) -- Paul Johnson Email and IM (XMPP & Google Talk): [EMAIL PROTECTED] -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://modevia.com/pipermail/py-transports/attachments/20060819/51950eb8/attachment.pgp From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Aug 19 22:01:55 2006 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (=?utf-8?Q?Derek_Kuli=C5=84ski?=) Date: Sat Aug 19 22:07:08 2006 Subject: [py-transports] Jabber transparent to MSN and parameter questions In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello Norman, Saturday, August 19, 2006, 1:21:30 PM, you wrote: [...] Interesting articles :) Hopefully authors are right :)) > Once this is complete we really will have jabber/gtalk/aim/icq on one > side, and msn/yahoo on the other. I'm willing to bet that yahoo will > have xmpp integration before msn do. That would be great. > Timelines? Who knows, hopefully sooner rather than later. > P.S. Any thoughts on when POP3/IMAP/SMTP will be replaced by XMPP? I think it's ok as it is... e-mail for offline communication IM for online. > What about IRC? Well conference rooms have a lot of similarity, but there's still something missing. On IRC you could meet new people, but you could also find new channels by using /whois on your friends. I think Jabber is still missing that ... -- Best regards, Derek mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] CCNA, SCSA, SCNA, LPIC, MCP certified http://www.takeda.tk Counting in binary is just like counting in decimal if you are all thumbs. -- Glaser and Way
